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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The “Freedom Caucus” is politically aligned with trump, and they have a few dozen seats in Congress, which is a big part of the whole fucking problem.

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't know they had that many seats. I thought it was 6ish.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh it’s a lot more than that. And actually, I underestimated their numbers before. As per this, 45 members of the House are members of the Freedom Caucus.

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is terrible. I really hope people vote them out.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

About 30% of the country appears to be a lost cause. We need to show up and vote against them, because there are more of us than there are of them. This, incidentally, is why GOP voter suppression tactics are so serious and frightening - they’re trying to make it super hard for anyone who doesn’t share their ideology to cast a vote at all. They try to spread their ideology, sure, but at the end of the day, they know there’s a TON of stuff they want that’s incredibly unpopular and regressive. They’re trying to game the system to win in spite of modern demographic and societal shifts.

And yeah: I’m done beating around the bush. If you’re voting for Trump, you’re either racist, a religious fundamentalist, an imbecile, a wealthy psychopath, or some combination of the above.

There will always be regressive, psychotic assholes in any society who try to drag it backwards. It’s everyone else’s job to shame, humiliate, and yes, when required, physically suppress them and their attempts to organize into a political force. They will weaponize the tolerance of society against itself if we tolerate them in any way.

Here’s a longer story (shamelessly stolen from reddit, because fuck Reddit) to the same effect:

(transcribed from a series of tweets) - @iamragesparkle

I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, "no. get out."

And the dude next to me says, "hey i'm not doing anything, i'm a paying customer." and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, "out. now." and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed

Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, "you didn't see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them."

And i was like, ohok and he continues.

"you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it's always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don't want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.

And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it's too late because they're entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.

And i was like, 'oh damn.' and he said "yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people."

And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven't forgotten that at all.

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The entire punk music scene shut itself down because the Nazis were taking it over. It's where the saying "Nazi punks, fuck off!" comes from.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of mine is in the FC. He’s as bad as you would imagine. Sadly though where I live he’s never really in any danger of losing. It’s very frustrating, especially because I will be directly impacted by any potential shutdown. I imagine I’m not the only one in this area who would be, so maybe this will change some minds. I don’t know.

[–] DrPop@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I had to look and the district next to mine is part of it. My representative still voted to decertify the election.