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Instance blocking should replace defederation (lemm.ee)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by HerbalGamer@lemm.ee to c/chat@beehaw.org
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Think about it; instead of those in charge or the instances deciding who they don't want to be federated with and thus restricting content for the users, it would be better if users were able to block entire instances instead.

We'd be able to curate our own browsing experience so much better without admin/mod drama influencing the rest of us.

Edit: Alright so maybe not exactly replace defederation, but it should still be an option available to us, and in general should become the default action before defederation IMHO.

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is like, my fourth account on Lemmy. Had to switch instances several times because they were defederating too much and I couldn’t get an unbiased all feed.

[–] BitOneZero@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I couldn’t get an unbiased all feed.

Lemmy would crash if you fed it everything, that's why Lemmy.ml and lemmy.world were crashing so often since May, the SQL did not scale. Some of those problems have been fixed, but it was performing really badly at the time of the Reddit API cutoff.

The admin headaches of a full feed from over a thousand unknown sources means you are opening yourself up to a lot of legal, copyright, porn, vote manipulation, unpredictable load surges, etc. I think it would have to be something people fund a lemmy site that promises to carry everything.

[–] ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blahaj.zone defederated from all tankies and they defederated from lemmynsfw over child porn for hosting... "adorableporn"

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah the whole instance is essentially one trans person's safe space. Nothing wrong with that, there certainly should be such communities, but for the reasons you mentioned it is not a good instance to choose unless you are specifically looking for a heavily moderated trans community.

[–] apis@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trans people shouldn't have to corral themselves away in trans-specific communities. They're part of the wider community, just like anyone else & deserve safety within that.

It really isn't hard for the rest of us to refuse to tolerate transphobia, whether or not there are trans people in the vicinity.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I agree of course, but in the mean time i can completely understand their desire to have a walled garden space for themselves.

[–] ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing in what I said has anything to do about being a trans safe space

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

And nothing I said has anything to do with transphobia, which is what you are trying to insinuate here i believe.

I just wanted to provide the broader context of their aggressive defederation policy.