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Hello, Canadians of Lemmy! Down in the USA there is a lot of conflicting information regarding the efficacy of y'alls healthcare systems. Without revealing my personal bias, I was hoping for some anecdotes or summaries from those whom actually live there.

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[–] MyDogLovesMe@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honest answer?

If you’ve lived through Canadian HC for a few decades, you’ll notice a few things:

  1. It’s no where near as good as it was in the past.

  2. It’s broken now after Covid and the apathetic response to the stress upon the system.

  3. The conservative governments (mostly provincial) are purposely not putting monies where needed (eg more staff), and underfunding everything in it so the system breaks. This way, their associates can swoop in and take over with “more efficient” and faster HC services - and they can then begin raking in the enormous profit margins seen in the private US system (many of whom are their ‘associates’).

Canadians in most provinces are currently being slow-walked into private, for profit HC.

If you don’t see this. You’re truly blinded by your comforting illusions of what Canada is now, compared to 20-30 years ago. Shit, even 10.

Two-tiered HC coning right up!

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the us it's a pretty standard strategy for the right wing to underfund or sabotage a program, say government doesn't work, and then try to privatize it.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

It's not "the right-wing," it's the Parties of Capital. Find a government service that turns a profit and people like. Whine about "the deficit," make "hard-choices," and underfund it while giving more and more money to your donor's in the form of carve-outs. Eventually the service starts to suck and people start to hate it, now you can swoop in and privatize it.

A pro-tip to detect this behavior is to see who is talking about the deficit, when that talk comes up it means there are services they want to cut.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

The conservative governments (mostly provincial) are purposely not putting monies where needed (eg more staff), and underfunding everything in it so the system breaks.

That's a major contributing factor to the increased delays and decreased availability.

Those same conservative provincial governments were fighting against the federal government's offered additional health funding because the feds had the audacity to insist on accountability - that health cate finding be actually used for health and not diverted to other things.

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is happening in Eastern Europe too. Every single point can be applied to any country here

[–] blackbird@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Agreed. UK's NHS is a poor shadow of its former glory due to Tory/right cuts and desperation to privatise. And just a decade ago the (IMHO awesome) 2012 Olympic opening ceremony showing our thanks and respect... 😭