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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/5110168

As a moderator of a Lemmy instance, you currently have two options to take: pushing users first to your local content or content from all instances you federate with. These options come with the costs seen in the picture. The moderator of another instance has the same choice. However, in this scenario, they will both always switch to promoting the local-feed. I don't want to say its wrong - it's just the most sensible way to act on Lemmy currently. However, if everybody does it, it is bad for the overall discussion quality of the Threadiverse.

Its a classical prisoner's dilemma from game theory, which sometimes happen in society, for example with supply shortage during lockdowns. A way to solve it is by making action B more positive and option A more negative. This would lead to more moderators choosing Action B over A.

Mastodon solved this with an Explore-Feed, which consolidates the Local- and All-Feed. I think this could also be a solution for Lemmy. It would result in less engagement decrease AND an overall positive effect on discussion quality.

Additionally, a general acknowledgement that instance protectionism is a problem and should be avoided could help to make A more negative. In other words: increasing the pressure by the community. This would put a negative social effect on option A. So: start talking about it with your moderators.

Do you think these two measure would do (additionally to more powerful moderation tools, which would only enable a working explore-feed in the first place)? Is this a problem on other services on the Fediverse too (at least Mastodon seems to have handled it quite well)?

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[–] poVoq 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Basic account information and subscriptions are easy to migrate and support for it (similar to Mastodon) will likely come sooner or later to Lemmy. And there are already 3rd party scripts to help with that.

Migrating "all data" is unlikely to happen, as it makes little sense to migrate isolated posts in a discussion, and for legal and ethical reasons you can't migrate other people's posts or full communities as those are not yours and people participating only consented into sharing them on that specific community on that specific server (because it is for example based in the EU where better data protection applies).

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting, I hadn't thought about the ethical and data protection issues for this problem before.

Could linking of communities solve it? You close a community, open it on another instance and link the two?