Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
Related Communities
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!askmen@lemmy.world
!mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world
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Why should men go into construction which is a job that requires skill and actually working hard, when CA is now going to be paying skill-less fast food workers $20/hr?
Doing a quick search shows that even within CA the average pay rate is just $23/hr for construction workers and yet that job requires much more skill than someone flipping a burger.
Bingo
OK. So housing just went up in price then too. Luckily no one has been complaining about the cost of home prices!
LOL this is bloody hilarious. The skill free labor that a burger flipper provides is exactly reflected in their low wages. So you seemingly want housing prices to go up because you think they are somehow artificially deflated already... but you can't see that simply waving a magic wand to increase wages for a skill free job is simply artificially inflating that job's worth.
The disconnect with reality is strong with this one.
My solution to the construction labor shortage is to, get this, make construction jobs more appealing to construction workers. Your solution is to, checks notes, blame poor people.
Yup, housing prices would go up to reflect the actual cost of the house. The fact that you can't afford it anymore is a symptom of the fact that wages have been stagnant for decades, while CEOs give themselves bigger and bigger bonuses, at the cost of your quality of life.
Poor people being able to live their fucking life is not the problem, but rich assholes are sure trying to convince you it is.
It's hilarious that you think you actually have a "solution" there when all you just created is inflation. Skill free wages go up, construction wages go up, house prices go up. Just print more money.... what could go wrong with doing that?!
You don't seem to understand what's going on in the world. Everyone would be a lot better off if you stopped posting a for awhile and took some time to educate yourself.
There is no such thing as unskilled labor. I promise you, without training, you would fail miserably when asked to crank out big macs all day for a living. Just like you would if you were tasked for any other "unskilled labor" that you haven't been trained to do. That means there is skill to it.
Unskilled labor is a myth created to justify paying human beings less than a living wage to line rich men's pockets.
You are foolishly equating a boring job with one that requires skill. If one can be trained in a job in an hour or two, that's a skill free job and is paid accordingly.
Only people who lack any skills believe in unskilled labor
I challenge you to be a “burger flipper” for a year and tell me how easy it is.