Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
Related Communities
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!askmen@lemmy.world
!mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world
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For me this is the crux of the issue:
Men, especially young men, today are stuck in a no man's land where they know that the toxicity of the past is not what's socially acceptable, but no one's giving them a model of what they can be. They are collateral damage of the culture wars.
Andrew Tate (just writing that name feels dirty) and his clique are exploiting this to cultivate hate and toxicity, but the traditional feminist approach that "Men should get in touch with their feminine side" will leave them isolated socially from their peers and emotionally.
The middle road will not be feminine and won't be the traditional masculine role that's still very present in culture, but will be a place where men can confidently own their vulnerability.
Edit: spelling
The conclusion sums it up very well: men are out of the old men box, but there's no model for them for the men of the new world, which leave them helpless yet more conscious than ever about their body and the questions of masculinity.
I dont really see that in my life, maybe because most far left spaces I visit try to reject gender roles, especially those that are used by youths and young adults. What I notice more is the lack of community building or organizing around being masculine / a man, while I feel so many other groups/identities are constantly building connection based on their shared experience.
I would be interested if thats something others also experience.
"The middle road will not be feminine..."
It will include aspects of it though. It has been defining masculinity in opposition to femininity for all these years which has allowed a toxic aspect to develop within male dominated groups over time.