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[–] seanchai@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I'm not really sure I understand the point of "vegan" KitKat when Nestle is one of the most vile abusers of both humans and the ecosystem and the KitKat comes at the expense of literal child slavery.

[–] kitkat_new@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

greenwashing, obviously

[–] vitaminka@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the point is to not abuse animals in the production process

[–] seanchai@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So abusing animals is bad but literal child slaves is good?

Sorry but fuck that. That's peak white veganism.

If you care about animal abuse (and you obviously should) then child slave should also be a huge fucking no. There's nothing vegan about child slaves. If you think there is then that's disgusting.

And literally nothing nestle makes can possibly be free from animal abuse when they are destroying entire ecosystems. What kind of logic is that?

[–] vitaminka@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

they're incorrectly using the term "vegan" in place of plant based to refer to the composition of the product, to refer to the fact that it contains no animal products, therefore the point of a "vegan" kitkat is that the finished chocolate doesn't contain animal products, which is an important consideration for some people, regardless of the circumstances of production

[–] seanchai@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah I get that, and what I'm saying is that it's a ridiculous consideration, and it feels like the epitome of performative moralism

[–] vitaminka@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

sure, i agree with that

almost the entirety of the vegan products trend is just capitalist profiteering off of popular trends, often with no consideration of the actual implications of what veganism means 🤷‍♀️