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[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do know that blocking a road like this without a permit is a crime, right?

It's also clear you didn't watch the whole video, because at the end of it you can see cars backed up for many many miles.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ko4abp.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do know that it's not the cops job to prosecute and punish for a crime, right?

It's also clear you didn't read my entire comment, because at the end of it you can see I mentioned the aerial view of which you can see the cars.... and the cops... and the emergency vehicles. Meaning the officers have been on the scene for a while, enough to have to call in other emergency vehicles to respond to the crime scene and injuries the cops just created.

From your post and responses on here it's obvious you don't really care about the traffic, it's just an excuse to revel in authoritarianism and violence on others. The cops didn't come in and restore order so the traffic could continue like I suggested in my original comment. They made it worse and delayed it even further, but that doesn't matter right?

It's funny because you're demeaning the protestors but also supporting them at the same time. They want a scene, they want attention, that's the whole purpose of a protest. If the cops had just directed traffic around and handled the situation with level headed - legal action, everyone would just be slowly cruising by shaking their head at these people while they were being arrested. We wouldn't be having this discussion, it wouldn't have been all over the news, and would just be a random footnote a few people at burning man would've been discussing. The protestors got what they wanted, lifetime vindication that only strengthens their movement in their head making them the righteous party.

I'm sorry you're not getting the responses you had hoped for. Hopefully one day all police vehicles will be snow plows to make you happier. Scene of an accident? Plow it right through so traffic can continue because it's more important for traffic to proceed. Flock of animals blocking the highway? Plowed. Old lady with dementia lost walking on the highway? Plow'er. It's insane you're commenting on their crime but feels it's legal to use a vehicle driving through a group of pedestrians.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, your entire reply is one giant straw man. Jesus, you created an entire cinematic universe for your straw man as well where your straw man was creating other lesser straw men.

I can tell from this comment reply that you have no interest in arguing in good faith.


One thing that needs to be addressed that you said though, I support climate change activism. I do not support whatever the fuck this is supposed to be. Random people on the street can't do a single fucking thing about climate change. Largely it is corporations that have some control.

The only way that you can make any sort of difference is at the ballot box. Instead of doing this garbage and making everybody hate you, you could be out speaking to people, explaining the dangers to them, winning them over to your ideals with logic and reason. Throwing a tantrum like blocking a road does nothing but let everyone see that you are a child and incapable of using your words. It's not even The correct target audience.

I said before the random people on the street can't do a single fucking thing about climate change, which is true. However they can do something about changing the hearts and minds of those around them. Do it enough and we can vote these fuckers out and put some real climate change legislation out.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ko4abp.com 3 points 1 year ago

Is there something in particular you would like me to address to clear up the "straw man" part? It's kinda hard to reply if you're subjugating the entire comment without any clear indication of what you're talking about.

We both support climate change activism so there's no argument here about that and am glad we can at least both walk away from this with that in mind. I do not condone the use of vehicular assault by officers regardless of my opinion with the group's tactics. I don't agree with all of your statements you've replied with but that's a moot point and continuing just furthers the divide and the main subject matter is slowly being lost.