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The New York City police department plans to pilot the unmanned aircrafts in response to complaints about large gatherings, including private events, over Labor Day weekend, officials announced Thursday.

“If a caller states there’s a large crowd, a large party in a backyard, we’re going to be utilizing our assets to go up and go check on the party,” Kaz Daughtry, the assistant NYPD Commissioner, said at a press conference.

The plan drew immediate backlash from privacy and civil liberties advocates, raising questions about whether such drone use violated existing laws for police surveillance.

“It’s a troubling announcement and it flies in the face of the POST Act,” said Daniel Schwarz, a privacy and technology strategist at the New York Civil Liberties Union, referring to a 2020 city law that requires the NYPD to disclose its surveillance tactics. “Deploying drones in this way is a sci-fi inspired scenario.”

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[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It becomes illegal when there are too many people there, or there is violence, underage drinking, drug usage, and if it's too loud, the attendees are parking in the street blocking traffic, fire risks all sorts of shit

[–] uis@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They are not responding to complains, they are searching themselves.

EDIT: my eyes. They are responding. Still very wierd. Crowd itself is not a crime, article 20 of DoHR says so.

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article specifically says in response to complaints...

[–] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will be construed as, they can start indefinite surveillance on an area after a complaint is filed at any time.

[–] Agent_of_Kayos@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

"Someone complained 3 weeks ago so we're just checking it out"

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

As does the first amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

[–] Wookie@artemis.camp 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they doing this in white, affluent communities?

We should try to make them

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Those sound like things they need a warrant to learn about in a place with a reasonable expectation of privacy.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is illegal to have to many people at your own home? That's a new one.

[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only in the context of like, fire safety. You can't have more people in a building than it is designed to safely hold.

Of course, cops use this safety regulation as an excuse to control people and be dicks...

[–] Weedbro@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Nyc's greatest act was convincing everyone they're a liberal city.

[–] Agent_of_Kayos@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Freedom isn't free. And the price tag has been increasing so fast

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's all stuff people can call the cops for, no need for surveillance.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So the cops and fuck with your backyard party if you smoke a joint?

[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Joint? Nah, hard drugs, fo sho (unless you are a billionaire).

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

What a waste of time and resources.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How they will distinguish cigaretes, joints and hard drugs?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago
[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How would a drone know? Other than capacity and street violations, there's nothing that a drone should realistically be able to identify.

[–] instamat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think the drone operators would do the identifying part