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Jacksonville shooter bought guns legally before racist attack that killed 3
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I'd love to see a metric of deaths per year by legal and illegal firearms.
They're always bought legally, by people who should not have access to them. Full back ground checks will stop these incidents, as well as more mandatory reporters
And making police mandatory reporters and holding them to some level of accountability. Some school shooter had the cops called on him 30 separate times and was BANNED FROM WEARING A BACKPACK IN SCHOOL yet somehow wasn't on a list. Mind blowing.
Reminds me of the phrase, "We've done nothing, and we're out of ideas"
Except in this case, there's plenty of ideas, they just have done nothing because it makes them more money.
Yeah, somethings not right, and we're just putting our thumb up our ass about it
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ 28k so far this year.
Legal vs. Illegal? Much harder to say..
NPR: Major Takeaways from ATF Report
Going into this I figured illegally obtained firearms must make up a small percentage, since I've read about so many mass shooting + suicide style events that include use of a legally owned AR15 or taken from a family member who didn't bother locking it.
Nope, the illegal market for firearms in the U.S. is staggering.
I'm not trying to move the goalpost here, so we can take the numbers at face value if that's the way we want to look at it. However, I would consider guns stolen from family members that didn't lock them up as "legally obtained" because of the close proximity of the relationship and the disregard of basic safety on the part of the original owner. I know this just muddies the water, but as for myself, that is how I would classify it. There was little to no barrier to separate the killer from the weapon, it may as well have been handed to them.
Even without knowing what the number would be, there's some interesting nuance to this. Eg, a lot of guns used in crimes would be taken from family members or parents bought for their kids as a straw purchase, but from the perspective of the gun sale itself, it was a legal sale (even though the user of the gun didn't legally acquire it). I call that particular example out because it's been prominent in some school shootings, won't be fixed by just limiting the purchase of guns, but is still something that only exists because of US gun culture.
There's also the fact that a massive amount of gun crime is gang violence, where it's more likely that the guns are illegally owned. This is still a tragedy and nobody should be dying to gun violence whether or not they're in a gang. But unless innocent people are victims (which also is often the case!), gang violence isn't usually what people are thinking of or focusing on, since many people's concern is somewhat understandably focused on more random gun violence, where it's harder to understand why it's happening.
What does that have to do with this story?
Edit: my bad, I missed the "legal" part in your comment.