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The co-founder of failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX pleaded not guilty to a seven count indictment charging him with wire fraud, securities fraud and money laundering.

An attorney for FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried said in federal court Tuesday his client has to subsist on bread, water and peanut butter because the jail he's in isn't accommodating his vegan diet.

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[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the precedent set for prisoners in general that you should have a problem with. He just so happens to be the one in the public eye that is affected right now. Forcing him to either go against his beliefs or be nutritionally deficient is not okay. Your feelings about SBF are not at issue. We can end this chain on that note.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Currently only religious beliefs are supported by the prison industry. If he couldn't eat kosher, for example, I would agree that that's a problem.

What if he was pescaterian? Or on a Keto diet? It's this zone that I don't think the state needs to entertain. SBF happens to be vegan and vegan is in the region in my mind.

I guess my question is: Is there a limit to the extent which the state should go to satisfy your dietary preferences?

[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Veganism is not strictly a dietary preference. It is a stance against all forms of exploitation and commodification of animals. Comparing Keto or pescetarianism to ethical veganism is unsound. Veganism is about animal rights, bodily autonomy, & consent.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure SBF is an ethical vegan and not a dietary vegan?

[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ethical vegans tend to describe people who are simplying choose a diet without animal products as plant based eaters. So that would not necessarily be Vegan as they could be exploitative in all other manner than food. Of the people who don't want to associate with veganism, they often also refer to their diet as plant-based rather than Vegan.

So while we can't know for sure if SFB is an ethical Vegan, the fact that he'd self-described as Vegan rather than as a plant-based eater is a very good indication of his beliefs. I am not aware of any text describing the particulars of his belief, but I think it's best to assume in good faith since he uses that exact word.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're trying, I like it. The thing is, no one calls themselves "plant-based eaters." It's too many syllables...

[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Homie there are absolutely people who think vegans are crazy and eat plant-based. They don't want to be described as vegan. A lot of them are in the Gwyneth Paltrow goop crowd, you know, the crazy holistic people that like incense and hot yoga and shit. People who really really like the word journey when they describe things changing in their lives. People who think eating plant based is a personal choice just like they claim eating meat is a personal choice. They do it for health and some weird hippie superiority thing. Sometimes because its what God originally wanted people to eat in the Garden of Eden.

Those people exist. Idk why you're suggesting I'm lying.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I may not believe you, but I didn't call you a liar.

[–] fluffyviciouskoalas@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, none of them are here in this thread, so it's obvious you're just lying and dredging up excuses to help SBF avoid consequences for his actions. You're a despicable piece of shit -- though what can we expect from someone who prefers the company of snakes to human beings?

[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck off you dumb carnist animal abusing POS IDGAF about SBF or you.

[–] fluffyviciouskoalas@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Lol cut a vegan and an apologist bleeds apparently

[–] muix@infosec.pub -2 points 1 year ago

Veganism is not a dietary preference. Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for any purpose. Which happens to include food.