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There is this wierd meme that IRC is "outdated" and XMPP is "dead", both of which is completely untrue, but somehow the tech-bro hivemind continues to spout this nonsense when ever the topic comes up.
AFAIK the most complained about thing with xmpp is that there are so many standards and every server isn't guaranteed to implement them. That and just being old which is no curse but people take that as a negative sometimes.
It's honestly pretty good IMO.
@timbuck2themoon
> there are so many standards and every server isn’t guaranteed to implement them
This is just one of dozens of HX fails that leave XMPP unusable for anyone who isn't ideologically committed to using it.
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#HX = Human eXperience
@poVoq @Lucia
@timbuck2themoon
Matrix apps are far from perfect, but its dev community at least *care* about improving HX and it shows. In my experience, the XMPP dev community (with a few notable exceptions like the ModernXMPP folks) insist on seeing their HX fails as features not bugs. They expect people to stop expecting 21st century chat apps, and embrace 1990s retro.
I've used XMPP since then (I'm still strypey@jabber.org), and all I can say is, good luck with that.
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@poVoq @Lucia
Thank you, Ive seen this repeatedly and now Ive been better informed.