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Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.'::Tesla CEO Elon Musk's ‘ultra hardcore’ work culture is revealed to have led to long hours, unsafe conditions, and harassment for employees.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 158 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've never spoken with a Tesla employee, current or former, who hasn't corroborated this information about working conditions. Doesn't matter if you are a line worker in the factory or an engineer in the design offices, you are expected to put work above all else, keep your nose down and your mouth shut.

I'll never buy a Tesla because of the shit that I've heard about how they treat their employees there, let alone that dipshit Musk spouting off about full self driving and never following through.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep, he got Tesla where it was quickly by squeezing everything he could out of the talent that was hired by the original founders. They got a relatively decent car out of it initially (compared to the competition, which was basically just the Nissan Leaf), but now they're probably struggling to retain/find talent to continue running the company and designing new cars.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He also hired people to fudge the fucking numbers. At one point he had more venture capital in pure slush money than the entire US automobile market had in their banks.

There was never any reason for that other than defrauding investors.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Elongated Muskrat is the weirdest hype beast I’ve ever seen.

He stumbles his way through sentences, has zero confidence when speaking, and ummm and uhhhs like a college freshman doing his first presentation that he prepared the morning of.

And yet, he’s generated billions of dollars in funding based purely off of hype for things that he, by track record, only has about a 10% chance of delivering.

It’s bizarre.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Occasionally, I get video links from people praising how great and visionary Musk is. Then I look at the video, and all I see is a mediocre presentation. He should consider taking a few courses on public speaking. That could make him deliver his ideas more fluently, but at the moment I’m having trouble taking him seriously.

[–] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well, he’s a level three hyper genius. Are you?

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will never buy one, never even thought about it. Two things though, the 1st generation roadster was not anything like a leaf. 2nd, nearly $500,000,000 of the early funding was from the federal government and around $3,200,000,000 from California. Now the new federal bet on Tesla charging stations is around $7,500,000,000. It may have all been worth it to help the car industry need to compete wiith other electric vehicles, but the government could have easily picked a better choice for all that scratch.

[–] rezifon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe the other commenter was saying that initially Tesla’s only competition was lacking (“basically like the Leaf”), not saying that the Tesla product was.

Now that Tesla faces credible competition from other automakers, they face a much steeper challenge to retain their market share.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ditto. I've seen lots of rumors that the software stack is an utter mess as a result. Musk's Uber librarian attitude means he only ever gets junior devs.

The pay has been below market for a while now. He's tried selling "on the mission" which is totally spoiled now.

I expect other manufacturers are going to catch up quick.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

The librarians your just insulted. Oof. Not cool.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago

Yep, imagine trusting the self-driving tech written by someone that runs a software team like that.

spouting off about full self driving and never following through.

That was Musk too laying on the whip demanding progress and a breakthrough with the team running head first into fundamental technical limitations. It was made worse with him putting on even more restrictions with vision only.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's a gigantic red flag when the boss supposedly fires people because he doesn't like the way they looked at him.