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[–] rodbiren@midwest.social 184 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's one thing to hear the warnings of scientists my entire life on the ravages of climate change. It is entirely another to see it play out in real life. News of fire and destruction will become as commonplace as school shootings in less than 10 years. Living in Hell will be normal soon.

[–] rapscallion@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

With the same people who block action on gun violence now offering thoughts and prayers to climate change victims and saying that anyone trying to solve the problem is just politicizing a tragedy.

[–] DudePluto@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How is this fire related to climate change? Genuine question because I don't understand the connection

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Based on my own training in environmental science, I can say that virtually all phenomena in nature have multiple, interacting causes. To synthesize what I've read about the wildfires on Maui, the direct factors were: invasive grass species which have taken over much of the land area after the sugar cane and pineapple plantations shut down decades ago; a flash drought on the island; and high winds from Hurricane Dora. A flash drought means it's hot and dry enough to pull moisture out of the plants and the ground, so the conditions on the island were very, very dry. The dry grasses burn quickly and intensely, and the fire was fanned by 70-80MPH winds from the hurricane passing by in the Pacific Ocean.

Climate change has a role in making flash droughts much more likely, and more intense. It also helps fuel bigger, stronger hurricanes. Thus, a flash drought coinciding with a hurricane is much more likely due to it.

[–] DudePluto@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the detailed explanation!

[–] Leer10@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

If only I had Lemmy silver to give

[–] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Changes to rain patterns, higher temperatures drying vegetation…what might have been minor or even nothing can now become an inferno.

[–] notatoad@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is entirely another to see it play out in real life. News of fire and destruction will become as commonplace as school shootings in less than 10 years

in some countries, it already is!

In Australia someone's house burnt down the other day. I haven't heard of any bushfires this year, but that house burning down sure pushed us ahead of the school shooting count for the year.