Asklemmy

I just want people like this to take the point seriously. As a british ( yes I know 🤢) socialist I see American ""left"" discourse and it's fucking wild to me how many people want to deradicalise the left. How you want to pander to liberals. They live in such an incredibly right wing capitalist culture (I'm not oblivious to British problems) where the working class has been so heavily pushed out of sight and deplatformed EVERYWHERE that they think they need to do the same fucking thing in order to pander to the liberals.

The solution to the American problem isn't to pander to fucking liberals it's to drag them left kicking and fucking screaming. It's to build your own spaces with a working class culture that actively promote the working class and suppress the upper classes.

The "we need to enact policies that suppress the working class to grow" concept is just functionally "we need to be liberals".

I don't think Americans seem to be aware of just how radical speech is outside of their own country either. I don't think they understand that the above is the baseline of the left in Europe. That's the level of radical discourse that achieves shitty capitalism with social safety nets and healthcare. That level of discourse is what America needs to achieve as normal within the left in order to get to European shitty welfare, let alone to achieve revolution for anarchism, socialism or whatever. And yet these people that THINK they're ""left"" while voting for people to the right of margaret fucking thatcher stand by policies that deradicalise speech and suppress the working class.

How people speak isn't the problem. What people say is the problem. Someone can be rough around the edges like I am but have significantly valid things to say. There are a lot of us, educated, principled working class socialists who are rough around the edges, we speak how we speak, we come from many countries and backgrounds. I grew up in squats ffs. Suppressing people for how they speak when so many people come from such a broad range of backgrounds ultimately just shuts down huge swathes of the poorest section of society from participation, it actively suppresses real left wing voices who had to truly fucking struggle just surviving childhood let alone learning how to fucking speak right so as not to upset some moderator that thinks it's necessary to shut me out because I say some swear words here or there.