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Where did this HAARP nonsense I keep hearing about come from? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by onlooker@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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So, I heard several people now mention HAARP as the cause for all the natural disasters that have been happening lately. And here I thought the cause was rampant pollution and global warming!

But seriously, I'm looking at the HAARP page on wikipedia and it seems to be an array for studying the ionosphere? How in the hell do you go from "we're using this to see what's happening way up there in the sky" to "this causes tornadoes"? Who even started this garbage?

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[–] bob_lemon@feddit.de 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

As far as I know, the "logic" is as follows:

  1. The ionosphere is very important for the weather
  2. HAARP is doing something with it
  3. Obviously not just studies, these antenna arrays use lasers or radiation to influence it directly.
  4. Pew pew
  5. Tornados
[–] Sightline@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nowadays blaming HAARP means they aren't blaming Exxon. In the past I believe it was just conspiracy fodder.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  1. people die
  2. society collapses
  3. ???
  4. profit

That’s the basic pattern for most conspiracies anyway. I’m still wondering how the conspiracy theorists expect billionaires will make even more money by cutting the human population to a tiny fraction of its current number. Well, I guess I’m just not smart enough to see the hidden truth or whatever.

[–] amio@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Right? Billionaires have an obvious interest in the status quo - that's why getting anything to ever change in ways that mildly inconvenience them is like pulling teeth.

Like others have pointed out in the thread, though: if you're expecting rationality from conspiracy theorists, you've already lost.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

If those premises are true it seems to make sense.

This is the sort of thing that with enough data we could determine experimentally whether that’s what’s happening.