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I recently moved to California. Before i moved, people asked me "why are you moving there, its so bad?". Now that I'm here, i understand it less. The state is beautiful. There is so much to do.

I know the cost of living is high, and people think the gun control laws are ridiculous (I actually think they are reasonable, for the most part). There is a guy I work with here that says "the policies are dumb" but can't give me a solid answer on what is so bad about it.

So, what is it that California does (policy-wise) that people hate so much?

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[–] echo64@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a part of what I meant. It's all within the projection umbrella I was talking about.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You say that like I didn't just imply I was agreeing with you.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

> projection umbrella

There is no 'projection'. America went out in to the rest of the world, tortured, killed, murdered people and broke entire countries for americas gains. People hate america for the actions it took against them.

you need to understand that it's not some twisted form of jealously or annoyance and that america did serious evils in the world that people hate it for.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

>America went out in to the rest of the world, tortured, killed, murdered people and broke entire countries for americas gains. People hate america for the actions it took against them.

And that's not America projecting itself? I'm a Pacific Islander, I could tell you a whole lot about what America has done. It wants itself everywhere. That's projection if I've ever seen it.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no, that's not projection. that's American Imperialism. And very very very very very different than what you originally described.

> California is disliked by other US states for the same reason other countries might not like the US. It gets a disproportionate level of exposure and then you go there and it becomes a β€œdon’t meet your heroes” type of situation.

You don't speak for what I meant by my words. I was trying to say it in a broad way. Conquest of any form is a kind of exposure/projection.

[–] zer0nix@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Generally when the us is hated it is intruding against democratic forces

That's what I said.