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New polling shows national Republicans and Iowa Republican caucusgoers were more interested in “law and order” than battling “woke” schools, media and corporations.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 129 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It would be nice if my country could have two functional political parties. Right now we have one that thinks if it does something once a decade it is too radical and the other is eating horse dewormer.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We have a conservative party and a proto-fascist party.

The vast majority of Americans are neither.

Edit: probably not vast, but an easy majority

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, look at the numbers. Three quarters support for single payer.

Hell, when you explain "defund the police" it has overwhelming majority support even by conservatives.

Vast majority are very liberal, just too busy being buried by capitalism to vote.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like a lot of progressive ideals lately are simply plagued but godawful marketing.

Great ideas that are given a verbal shorthand that is confusing, misleading, needlessly polarizing, easily demonized, or all of the above.

Pride, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, Antifa, Defund the Police, Woke, Antiwork, and lots lots more...

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How is anti-fascism bad marketing?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anti-fascism is not. But how many rank-and-file Republicans even know that's what Antifa stands for? All they know is they're evil violent rioters because Fox News or Newsmax or whoever says so.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I don't see how that's a result of bad marketing, though, just the right's usual usual brainwashing to make people react negatively to a word, just like they did with CRT, woke, etc. If they can do it to a word like "welfare" that's literally one of the first words in the Constitution, they can do it to anything.

The sad fact is that any words we choose are vulnerable to being poisoned and turned against us. Some words and phrases are a lot more vulnerable than others (like "defund the police"), but it can happen to any words.

[–] breadcodes@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are conservatives arguing that Antifa stands for Anti- First Amendment (anti-f-a), but a vast majority think it's a new word with an ambiguous meaning.

Most people would agree to anti-facist ideas. The same people polled on Antifa would say otherwise.

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Neither of those things are liberal. Liberalism is a right wing ideology.

[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This made me actually lol. Beautifully said