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While many believe young people are becoming more liberal, data shows that 12th grade boys are nearly twice as likely to identify as conservative compared to liberal. Around 25% of high school seniors identify as conservative while only 13% identify as liberal. In contrast, the share of 12th grade girls identifying as liberal has risen to 30%. Many factors may contribute to this trend, including the rhetoric of Donald Trump which appealed to disaffected young men, and the focus of progressive movements on issues of gender and racial equality which some young men perceive as a "matriarchy." However, most high school seniors claim no political identity, and many boys in high school do not actively discuss

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[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because the right does such a good job addressing male mental health?

Maybe his parents (you and his dad I suppose) should monitor who he follows on social media a bit better?

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not that they are good at addressing it, they're they only group that vocally addresses it at all.

Young white men are a group, a large group, in the US and when then ONLY people saying "hey its okay to be YOU SPECIFICALLY YOUNG WHITE MAN", their social media algorithms tend to lean toward that.

I'm pretty liberal because of my own life experiences, and my youtube feed is just filled to the brim with Andrew Tate, Walsh, Shapiro, Peterson, Jones, etc. I happen to find Jor Rogan funny and that's about the furthest right I go, but because of that I'm can't not open youtube and be subjected with this type of content that, more or less, targets my demographic.

Personally, I see it as a grift. To me, these people are just making money selling bullshit by the bulk, and young white men happen to both have money and no other 'pick me' iconography.

I've dealt with suicidal ideation and mental health problems all my life, and Peterson comes on and tells me it's okay to feel emotions, but then immediately starts talking about how trans people will never be happy and should never try to transition. I'm pretty cognitive and can see its more or less book sales for him and he's talking about an experiences he's never had, but a 15 year old isn't quite as cognitive nor has had the same level of life experience as my age group

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The left is why kids aren't working in factories. The right and center have done everything to keep us from remembering that fact.

If you want role models on the left there's plenty of them. You just won't find them as easily on YouTube.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but there aren't figure heads targeting this demographic with a specific rhetoric/ideology.

When they teach it in school about kids working in coal mines and meat factories, they don't teach the politics that went along with it.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

No, unfortunately they don't teach it.

I didn't really understand it until I read The People's History of the U.S. a few decades later.

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would love it if his father bothered to put in effort in raising my eldest nephew, but that isn't going to happen sadly.

And I never insinuated the right was doing a good job???

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well you blamed the left when honestly that's about two people in Congress, the liberals are centrists whose job it is to keep another general strike from happening.

Why not blame the right? They're the ones literally pushing toxic shit on our kids and wanting to start child labor back up.

I sure as hell don't blame the left. Without the left my kid and your nephew would be working in a mine or factory. And you and I would still be working 80 hours a week to survive.

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You completely misunderstood my original post, and from the looks of it, you're doing it on purpose. Bye.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You literally blamed the left for your kid not getting mental health care. Was the first thing you said yet I misunderstood?

Yeah, good riddance lady.