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This is subjective.
This is distorted by the fact that they have fewer than half a dozen models. They aren't even in the top 10 brands world wide. BYD is in the top 10 and they sell twice as many vehicles.
Tesla isn't growing and as the foul Musk spread through global politics the brand will fall more. He wasted his first mover advantage. It's just a waiting game on how long the market will remain irrational with the stock price.
Exactly this, I would've bought one eventually if he'd just shut up, a lot of would.
But why would I support an openly racist, fascist, fuckhead trying to buy his way into power? Toyota, Honda, Kia, and all the other corpos are plenty evil and have the manufacturing and support experience an auto maker needs.
The idea of a generic parts "libreauto" is cool. A frame/chassis designed to accept drop-in parts from other established manufacturers so you could part out wrecked cars and assemble them into your own frankencar.
Oh yes, 3 ton chunks of metal speeding down the street build by the local methhead of of parts of wrecked cars. Seems very idyllic.
I mean, shade tree mechanics, modified cars, kit cars, and cars restored/rebuilt by amature mechanics, etc have all existed about as long as cars in general. If your local government does vehicle inspections those will still apply when the kit cars become electric. And if it doesn't you'll be in no more danger than you already are.
Salvage is already a huge part of car repair and restoration, and certainly isn't the exclusive domain of methheads.
What, do you want them to explain what's wrong with modular interoperability by learning about it and engaging with the facts of the issue? That's haaaarrrrrd!
It's way easier to just invoke culturally-ingrained prejudice against drug use that was inserted into our heads by some assholes who were cynically manipulating the narrative for political gain.
I also really don't like the implication that people without an addiction should somehow be 'above' reuse, salvage, or diy projects. That consuming products and filling landfills is somehow safer or more dignified. It feels like marketing at work and it's an attitude I sometimes get from some conservative relatives who see fixing old things as poor people behavior and don't understand why I wouldn't just buy something new if I could afford it. I love fixing things, making things, and finding interesting ways to reuse or repurpose parts. I think this idea that buying products, especially new, should be the default or only way is wasteful and damaging. Especially when those products are deliberately made worse so you'll buy them again and again.
I've done some car work over the years and easily half the parts I put in came secondhand off eBay, undoubtedly from a junkyard in some other state.
I'd like to switch to an electric vehicle but I'm deeply skeptical of the built in surveillance and overreliance on internet enabled software. I kind of wonder if my best bet for a car I trust to not spy on me or get hacked will be some kind of kit car situation in a few years.
People don't realise what they're missing when they can't or won't repair something. The moment I open something and fix it myself is the moment I feel like I truly own it. Prior to that I merely possessed a physical instance of something that belongs to someone else.
Maybe talking about it in those terms, calling into question whether they really own something just because they paid for a copy, is useful rhetoric for conservative types. They care so much about property, undermining that and telling them that proprietary designs are robbing them of having true ownership of their stuff, might make them care about it.
I would honestly love to retrofit my car with an electric system, but I can't afford to not have it working. Maybe one day I can grab an empty chassis for cheap and retrofit that. I've already tinkered with torque-vectoring software so putting that in a real car would be a blast.
The idea there is to take the parts off of the wrecked vehicle that arent destroyed/damaged and allowing them to be slotted in elsewhere much more easily