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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!

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0. Only post socialist memes

That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)

1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here

Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.

2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such,

as well as condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.

3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.

That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).

4. No Bigotry.

The only dangerous minority is the rich.

5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)

6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.

7. Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:

(This is not a definitive list, the spirit of the other rules still counts! Eventual duplicates with other rules are for emphasis.)

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[–] GreyFalcon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

thats funny. even if you are right of center. sensible conservatives still exist. we are just muted, as the maga folks have hijacked the game.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

"Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but because out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.
That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.
They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?"
-Julius Goat

[–] Shialac@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Nah, moderates are the worst because they enable the right-wing extremists and give them a cover without actually oppsing them

You're being muted because the conservative party has openly admitted to being a bunch of bigoted shit heads. Being a sensible conservative would mean realizing any conservative support is also support for bigotry.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

When I was becoming politically aware, in the late 1970s, early 1980s, the difference between Republicans and Democrats was generally explained as something like "rugged individualism and personal responsibility" vs "working together to achieve community goals." Ideally, I think that striking a balance between those two positions is an approriate and noble aim.

However, I have to disagree that "MAGA folks have hijacked the game." The hijacking began at least when the Republican party embraced the "Moral Majority" to elect conservatives through the 1980s. Even Goldwater, in 1994, recognized this hijacking going on.

Even prior to that, the Republican party was actively racist (think Nixon's "war on drugs," largely intended to convict minorities of new felonies, effectively removing their voting rights, and opposition to civil rights through the 1960s), going back to at least around the Eisenhower administration.

The Republican party was hijacked by shitty people, yes, but it was hijacked by conservatism.

[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, I'm against sensible inequality too!

How has maga muted the dems?

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

I hope I hear more of your voices on Lemmy. That’s one thing I severely miss from Reddit. Even if the whole site was left leaning, I could see controversial comments, or periodically visit /r/conservative to see their views. Lemmy seems to be even harder left leaning than Reddit, and there are no conservative viewpoints here. I try to avoid an echo chamber, so hope you talk more about your views even if it’s not welcome. I’ll always upvote such comments whenever I see one (as long as it’s not hate speech) to bring balance to the discussions.