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[–] Steve@communick.news 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

I genuinely don't understand the logic behind stopping these.
Can anyone help me make sense of it?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Same thing with everything he does. Just for the cruelty

[–] Steve@communick.news 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

No. That's too easy and dismissive. It doesn't even realy make sense.
Revenge maybe. But I doubt it.
There's some logical reasoning here. Something that makes sense, even if the goal it's self is senseless.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (2 children)

A friend‘s company will get the contract instead? Of course the vehicles would have ICEs, making his oil company friends happy? The cruelty would just be a bonus

[–] Steve@communick.news 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Something like that. But which friend? Which company?

[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe Musk wants to make them instead?

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 4 days ago

That would make sense.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

Try to get him to settle for hybrid, install small ICE into vehicle, show functionality upon rollout, retune software later to not actually use ICE. Lol

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What are you new? Since when does he make sense?

[–] Steve@communick.news 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It all makes sense when you see him as a child. An insecure narcissist, who thinks the world exists for his benefit. So how does this fit into that?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sometimes children break things just to break things

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even when they do, they're exploring and discovering their ability to effect the world, or how things work. It's not for no reason.

[–] ignirtoq@fedia.io 4 points 5 days ago

Yeah, and that's where the child analogy fails. He's not actually a child. He's not learning and exploring the world. Learning is likely one of the things Trump hates the most, because it would imply he doesn't already know the answer.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's always a reason, even if it's childish. I'm guessing someone in the petro industry whined in his ear. Or someone whined that he should hate the USPS. Who knows.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 days ago

Did everyone just collectively forget about his efforts to crush USPS? DeJoy? All of it?

Mail-in voting is still a danger to him, and privatising the mail system has been a goal for conservatives for a long time now.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Oil interests gave $75 million to Trump's campaign. That's the "logic".

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Friend.. Are you still trying to make sense of any of this? You poor poor soul. I want to give you a hug.

[–] Steve@communick.news 7 points 5 days ago

I appreciate that. Thank you

[–] OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org 13 points 5 days ago

It pisses off liberals. Literally the only thing that matters to him.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because it wasn’t his plan. Literally if anyone else does it it is bad. Trump is the most important and his ideas are the best

If only he could make them run on whale oil and pay twice as much they would be so much better

[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's the case with literally everything in the government pre 2016.
Why roll back this thing, and a few others? What's the line separating them from everything else?

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Well nothing…

He’s wanted to kill the ACA because Obama. But hasn’t had a plan in 8 years?

Air Force One, had be be redone after he cancelled Obama’s planned version. So his big brain re did it for a higher price and now is delayed until after 2028 ; so he now won’t get to fly it.

I’ve not talked to him about it, but I’m guessing that he 1, hates electric cars and 2, hates anything not trump.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago

Elon has his arm up Trump's ass.

Own the libs. That's the whole thing.