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[–] emmanuel_car@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’m a fan of this design principle and agree with the author on most points, but I am curious how cities like this deal with big box purchases - appliances, furniture, etc.

For retail stores, how do they get stock in? Same with supermarkets, do we build service lanes designed more for delivery trucks and waste collection?

For customers, how do you get that new washing machine or dining table home? These aren’t everyday purchases individually, but it a city they collectively are.

[–] Tiresia 4 points 4 days ago

In the medieval city center I grew up in, there are market streets that are 6-10m wide, which are accessible for utility and delivery vehicles in the early morning. All the cars come and go before 9 AM, after which the area is pedestrianized. The market street can then be used for restaurant seating, public gatherings, market stalls, or just a spacious boulevard.

Residential streets are narrower, but still wide enough for one-way car traffic plus pedestrians (cyclists needed to dismount or go around). Utility and delivery vehicles can use these streets, blocking them for other vehicles while they're unloading, but since pedestrians and cyclists can pass it doesn't disrupt people from going about their day.

Ultimately the delivery vehicles do go to dedicated car roads, a two-lane 50 km/h ring roughly 1 kilometer in diameter around the medieval city, but that means you can walk to 3000 people's houses, as well as markets and restaurants and schools for tens of thousands of people, without crossing a car street.

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