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So there's a ton of countries that I've heard have had truly unaffordable housing for decades, like:

  • The UK
  • Ireland
  • The Netherlands

And I've heard of a ton of countries where the cost of houses was until recently quite affordable where it's also started getting worse:

  • Germany
  • Poland
  • Czechia
  • Hungary
  • The US
  • Australia
  • Canada
  • And I'm sure plenty others
  1. It seems to be a pan-Western bloc thing. Is the cause in all these countries the same?
  2. We've heard of success stories in cities like Vienna where much of the housing stock is municipally owned – but those cities have had it that way for decades. Would their system alleviate the current crisis if established in the aforementioned countries?
  3. What specific policies should I be demanding of our politicians to make housing affordable again? Is there any silver bullet? Has any country demonstrably managed to reverse this crisis yet?
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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Finland only has approximately 1000 willfully homeless people. I'd call that solving the crisis.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

As a Finn, please stop talking about us as some kind of utopia. We haven't solved shit and our government is infested with fascists. I'm preeetty sure there are a lot more than that out there, unless a quarter of those 1000 happen to be around my morning commute.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 days ago

As a non-Finn, can you stop being some utopia despite your fascist-invested government?

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

You still have better educational system.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They also have a relatively small monocultural population and really cold winters.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

True, but they could just decide to ignore homeless people like most of the US and other capitalist countries have, but they didn't.

[–] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

If they did ignore it, by spring there would be less homelessness.

[–] Bender@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How does having a monocultural population make housing easier?

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

one of the main reasons people are against state housing is because people with the wrong skin color might get it

[–] Bender@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was going to let him say something obtusely racist and then roast him, but this works too.

EDIT: He did it anyway.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

They literally can't help themselves

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't, that's just a bullshit, half baked "argument" people like to use when someone points out to them that Scandinavian nations have figured most of this shit out already.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

But Finland only has like 2000 people. /s

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's good to hear, although it's kinda beyond the scope of my question. I'm asking more about how to stop prices rising when they've suddenly started quickly rising and people don't know why.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I was going to say Finland. Their public housing system should be an example for other nations to follow.

They won't, of course...