Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people
Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
Related Communities
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!askmen@lemmy.world
!mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world
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Left isn't going to win young men until they give up or modernize their identity politics. It's not the 70s anymore. Young men have been falling behind for over a decade at this point, and it's been completely ignored.
I think the point of the article is that ostracizing/disenfranchising young men hasn't worked so far. Doubling down on that may not change future voting behavior
Pushing people away will never work, but it's going to take a lot more than just stopping to ostracize them.
What do think "identity politics" is?
Sociological reductionism. Intersectionality was invented to overcome it but, so far, hasn't actually done so.
You seem to be asking a leading question where you assume they're against identity politics when they actually said they need to modernize their identity politics.
This implies it's something bad, either entirely or in it's current form. But i've never heard two people use the term in the same way, I've never heard anyone define it, and I've never seen anyone defend its use.
No it doesn't. It implies only what it says, that their specific use of identity politics is out of date.