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[–] Hellebert@beehaw.org 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Tried the official Reddit app today and boy people weren't joking when they say it sucks. I thought it'd just be the usual experience plus some ads but I was totally wrong.

The official app doesn't respect your subreddit subscriptions at all, instead force feeding you feeds of whatever their algorithm thinks will drive maximum engagement just like a shit version of Facebook does. The "hot" etc functional is completely stipped from it entirely.

Guess I'm here to stay on the fediverse now.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What absolutely sucks about this is that I had carefully curated my subscriptions in order not to exacerbate my dumb mental health issues.

Hell, I've read angry posts about people in recovery from addiction and alcohol saying how they keep seeing ads for beer or gambling and things like that.

It's horrifying!!

[–] remi_pan@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The algorithm really doesn't work when you are critical or sceptical over a subject. For instance crypto sceptics from r/buttcoin being shown binance ads. Yes, they do show an interest in crypto, but may be the least suceptible persons to that ad.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's different with subs focused on addiction & recovery though.

Maybe it's a very bad idea to targeted knife ads in a suicide watch sub, you know? Susceptible people and all.

[–] remi_pan@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I completely agree with you, and your example is very good indeed. (Maybe my previous comment was not clear ? English is not my mothertongue)

Nope nope sorry sorry! I just woke up and misread your comment as disagreeing with the sentiment, but I just reread it and realize that you were in agreement. I was just trying to explain my view further.

Sorry!! Lol I'll try to post less when I'm still tired!!

[–] Hellebert@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Me too. I suffer from PTSD myself so I avoid things like the war coverage in Ukraine. The app is full of it and I can't filter it fully like I can in RIF.

[–] Spzi@lemmy.click 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

people in recovery from addiction and alcohol saying how they keep seeing ads for beer or gambling

Not that this is how it works, but I imagine a diligent algorithm looking at those individuals and that content, and then thinking "mhhmm this will generate maximum revenue!!".

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that's absolutely how it works (in part). Ads curated toward your demographic! Maybe it's not inherently purposeful, but it's harmful, nonetheless.

In a subr×ddit about alcohol recovery? "Our algorithm detected that your post history contains the word "alcohol" or "beer" a lot! We will tailor your ads to cater to your interests for maximum profits!" Boom. There you go.

It takes the human aspect out of the community and drives it to become harmful at worst and soulless at best.

[–] hadrian@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Even more than that, you have the idea that 'similar users to yourself buy a lot of alcohol, so you probably will too'. Of course alcoholics, whether attempting recovery or not, are likely to buy alcohol. So if you're a recovering alcoholic, 'similar users to yourself' are gonna be buying more alcohol than usual, and so you'll see ads for it. Totally heartless and just for-profit.

[–] amki@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

From an advertiser perspective it makes sense to sell to addicted people. Mission accomplished?

[–] Dan_Rachevaski@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you don't mention the copious, copious amounts of ads and sponsored contents

wow thanks reddit, you are more and more Facebook-like now, congratulations.

[–] Hellebert@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's pretty bad too but I was at least willing to accept there is a valid reason for that to keep the lights on.

However, when they go as far to break the core functionality of the website and turn it into another Facebook with psychological manipulation at its core then that's a whole other thing entirely.

[–] Dan_Rachevaski@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Honestly, if I want a FB-like Reddit, fuck that, I'll going to Facebook.

Enshittification sucks I would say.

[–] elonspez@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I hate the reddit app but I don't have that problem. My home page is all what I've joined.