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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 115 points 3 weeks ago (58 children)

It's probably also good practice to assume that not all encrypted apps are created equal, too. Google's RCS messaging, for example, says "end-to-end encrypted", which sounds like it would be a direct and equal competitor to something like Signal. But Google regularly makes money off of your personal data. It does not behoove a company like Google to protect your data.

Start assuming every corporation is evil. At worst you lose some time getting educated on options.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 34 points 3 weeks ago (52 children)

End to end is end to end. Its either "the devices sign the messages with keys that never leave the the device so no 3rd party can ever compromise them" or it's not.

Signal is a more trustworthy org, but google isn't going to fuck around with this service to make money. They make their money off you by keeping you in the google ecosystem and data harvesting elsewhere.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Signal doesn't harvest, use, sell meta data, Google may do that.
E2E encryption doesn't protect from that.
Signal is orders of magnitude more trustworthy than Google in that regard.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed. That still doesnt mean google is not doing E2EE for its RCS service.

Im not arguing Google is trustworthy or better than Signal. I'm arguing that E2EE has a specific meaning that most people in this thread do not appear to understand.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Sure!
I was merely trying to raise awareness for the need to bring privacy protection to a level beyond E2EE, although E2EE is a very important and useful step.

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