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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 115 points 3 weeks ago (58 children)

It's probably also good practice to assume that not all encrypted apps are created equal, too. Google's RCS messaging, for example, says "end-to-end encrypted", which sounds like it would be a direct and equal competitor to something like Signal. But Google regularly makes money off of your personal data. It does not behoove a company like Google to protect your data.

Start assuming every corporation is evil. At worst you lose some time getting educated on options.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 34 points 3 weeks ago (52 children)

End to end is end to end. Its either "the devices sign the messages with keys that never leave the the device so no 3rd party can ever compromise them" or it's not.

Signal is a more trustworthy org, but google isn't going to fuck around with this service to make money. They make their money off you by keeping you in the google ecosystem and data harvesting elsewhere.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

End to end matters, who has the key; you or the provider. And Google could still read your messages before they are encrypted.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You have the key, not the provider. They are explicit about this in the implementation.

They can only read the messages before encryption if they are backdooring all android phones in an act of global sabotage. Pretty high consequences for soke low stakes data.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, Google does, with Play Services.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure the key is stored on the device, which is backed up to Google. I cannot say for sure if they do or don't backup your keyring, but I feel better not using it.

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