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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

ER is not even difficult unless you specifically want it to be

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I played it for 3 hours. Unless I'm missing something, it's incredibly difficult.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Here's 2 tips:

  1. Level up Vigor. Health is how you make early game easier.

  2. Skip bosses. There isn't a hard linear progression path and different builds struggle with different parts of the game.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Counter-point: No.

I rather play something fun.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago

Everyone experiences fun in their own ways. You're allowed to not want to play hard games just like other people are allowed to want to play hard games. It doesn't have to be an argument about which is "better."

[–] Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

Fun is subjective. For me, challenge is fun.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's fair, maybe I'll give it another shot one of these days. A friend of mine also suggested running from some of the enemies.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah, that's what my 2nd point is about also. It is natural to hit roadblocks, and in ER usually the correct move is to pursue a different path and come back once you're stronger. It can be a fun game, but forcing yourself to play it is not right either

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Did you spend that time trying to fight the Tree Sentinal (mounted knight boss) just in front of where you start? You don’t have to, and you shouldn’t unless you’re extremely skilled or masochistic. You can go around and find less dangerous enemies.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I don't remember anymore. This was like two years ago now.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Depends on what you define as hard. Sometimes, simply dying a bunch doesn't mean a game is hard, Armored Core 6 for example. Yeah you can die a bunch in Armored Core 6, but a particular level can become downright easy if you have the right build for it, especially since the game actually encourages you to change builds consistently, since after you die you are allowed to change your build for a level. Experimentation, changing tactics, etc, is fun.

Also Dwarf Fortress, dying is fun.

Also for me, "hard" games would be stuff that are boring and grindy. Because they are literally hard mentally to play and maintain focus on lol.

[–] ByteOnBikes 1 points 3 days ago

I think you're missing something.

You don't have to engage with the angry strong monsters.

Video games have made us believe we are the heroes. In Elden Ring, we are specks.

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’ve refused to play it cause I’m bad at video games and I don’t feel like playing something punishingly difficult cause that isn’t fun for me. This is the first time I’m hearing someone claim it’s not difficult

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

I mean, it's a valid point. I won't claim soulslikes are all easy and it's easy to play them all the time - they definitely have a difficulty curve, and not everyone is comfortable with the kind of difficulty this genre has. But to claim they're all so difficult as to be unplayable and it never changes is equally fallacious

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Agreed for the most part. That final DLC boss on release was pretty tough, even considering the other games. No orphan though. F that thing.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That final DLC boss on release was pretty tough

Yeah he was way overtuned. The last patch has nerfed him heavily though, and finally made the cross-slash attack dodgeable.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Nice. I played through a couple times near release on a high level character. Started a new character and haven't attempted him again yet. Maybe I'll go and do that.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That was overtuned, I'll give you that. Tho you still have to play through the other 99% of the game to get to it

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Definitely agree.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I got 60 hours in, got bored when while the world design looks nice it just feels so empty to me. Like Disneyland with extreme proportions, not a real place. That killed the vibe of the story for me- which was the only reason I was even trying to play. It was difficult for me, but that's because I don't enjoy trying the same fight 10-20 times.