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[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Our parents and grandparents had kids - depending on your age - when there was a world war and tens of thousands of people were dying daily in their country, or in the 50 years where the world was always on the brink of getting destroyed in a nuclear apocalypse if one of the two world powers made the wrong move. Were they dumb?

Not to downplay on the current emergencies which are existential and terrifying, especially seeing how little as a species we are doing to address them - but they are a bit of a silly reason not to have kids.

If you don’t want kids don’t have them, you do you :) far too many people have children out of peer or societal pressure or just carelessness, and we could really use much fewer of those, considering the societal damage of absent or careless parenting. But just be honest with yourself, no need to blame viruses and “no toilet paper”.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How many of those kids were intentional though? Birth control and abortion were restricted or just not available. I'm sure most of the people who had kids in the past did not regret it but I'm not going to pretend they meant to get pregnant.

And the toilet paper thing is obviously a joke. A bit of levity in the horror.

[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Sure, those were separate arguments. The intentionality part was about contemporary, potential parents.

[–] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Woah handle all that edge with care!

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It might've been more clear if you just said "I don't think they were dumb. Therefore..."

[–] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate that it's apparently the edgelord opinion to think bringing a child into a world where they will suffer is a bad thing. Anyone having a child is either a victim, an idiot, or a sociopath.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Being self centered and tribal is more the norm than ever before in my lifetime. Its going to be a very bumpy next 50 years for people who come into the world now.

Lol having a planet that won't sustain us because we're actively murdering it is absolutely the silliest reason ever not to have kids. Go on, progeny! Enjoy your water wars and starvation! It would've been incredibly silly not to create you just so you could endure it.