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[โ€“] Comrade_Spood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

One. I have a new account because my old account was on Lemmy Unchained which seems to not exist anymore. Secondly I am an anarchist, so don't insinuate that I am a Russian bot.

Two. America is on the track to fascism, voting Kamala wouldn't have stopped it, merely slowed it. Not even stall it for an election cycle, cause states have been moving towards fascism independent of the president.

Three. There are plenty of reasons why people would either abstain or vote third party. Boycotting the system, refusing to be complicit in genocide, losing faith in the system, not feeling safe to, etc. None of these are the voters fault. Nearly all are the DNC's fault for continuing their strategy of appealing to the right.

[โ€“] fushuan@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I insinuated nothing, after the election Russian bots dissapeared, I just found it funny.

If A slows fascism B accelerates it so... Letting B win means accelerating fascism.

Not voting doesn't boycott anything. It doesn't stop the system from functioning, its not like Spain where if a coalition doesn't get an absolute majority (including white voters which are distinct from non voters) a second elections needs to be held, where the simple majority can win. This two step system is the wake up call white voters have for parties while still having the chance to actually vote in the second cycle. Plus, if the result would be fascism, it makes a loot of non votes vote on the second cycle. In any case, in america there's no white voting or anything, it's all simple majority wins so not voting isn't gonna boicott shit, only helps winners.

If they don't have faith in the system and they think that whatever they vote nothing will matter, then they don't get to complain when the worse option accelerates fascism since they partially caused that acceleration.

If both parties would act the same in this particular genocide, no voting again does nothing in regard so participating in genocide or not, citizens will regardless keep participating since it's their money that's going regardless of A or B.

None of those factors are the voters fault, no, but they are at fault of thinking that not voting they are saying something useful because they aren't.

The DNC fucked up big time by not appealing to those voters for sure, but let's not skip the blame on those voters when america gets even less rights for the LGTB+ collective and women way faster that it was going. I'm sure as hell not ever visiting america if any of that stuff changes, it scares me to even be a turist there.