What Microsoft has been saying about Xbox lately strongly implies that this is a Windows handheld designed to solve software and user experience problems with using current Windows handhelds. And signs are pointing toward the next Xbox console coming sooner than the next PlayStation and essentially being a PC running a console version of Windows. Some speculation on my part, but I'm not the only one coming to those conclusions.

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 91 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Microsoft following the same pattern.

There is a need in the market they are aware of, but don't care
Someone else makes a huge splash by doing a great job
Microsoft gets butthurt that someone else is making profit
They take way too long coming up with a rival
Microsoft hires thousands of engineers to work on the product
The rival is way too late to market, and everyone has already chosen the cool product
Microsoft quietly lays people off and kills off the product

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You forgot

MS buys all the competition
MS kills said companies they bought before so everyone has to use their half assed shit product

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

While true, I don't see Valve selling out to Microsoft.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago

Fun fact, Gabe left Microsoft to found Valve. Pretty sure a few other early Valve employees were also from Microsoft.

[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never say never.

Who knows what happens when someone else takes the helm at Valve, might not be too long either. Lots of companies see a massive shift in company policies once a new CEO takes over. Hopefully it'll be someone that upholds the same integrity as Gabe.

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

I hope so as well, as Valve is one of the few companies left these days not consisting of shareholder imbeciles.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

That doesn't really happen though what happens is-

MS buys one of the biggest older players, then changes whatever direction they were going in, to their 'new hotness'
MS kills the company they bought after being way too late to market, and everyone has already chosen the cool product

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Too expensive and too late mostly.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 1 day ago

The surface is one of my go-to examples of Microsoft's ineptitude. The surface is honestly an amazing tablet. It works very well, great battery life, and you can either use a standard tablet mode or it as a full Windows machine. For businesses too it was a slam-dunk, where since it's Windows it already interfaces with most IT systems out of the box, no special setup or store integrations or Apple stuff, it'd work with Microsoft AD. Unfortunately it followed the pattern.

They gave up on tablets before fully vetting the market
Apple lands the iPad, and it takes off, is groundbreaking
Microsoft got butthurt that Apple made profit on a thing they gave up on
They take years coming up with the Surface, in the meantime every 3rd party came out with an Android one that was slow and choppy so the people have all decided iPad was the winner
Microsoft hired thousands of engineers and pivoted the entire world to touch, forcing Windows 8 down everyone's throats, making the public hate it
Surface finally lands, but everyone already hates the interface, and anyone who wants a tablet already has one
Microsoft quietly lays off everyone. Surface is still around, but on life support.