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UniversalMonk ban evasion (self.support)

submitted 2 weeks ago by auk to c/support@lemm.ee

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UniversalMonk has been evading the a ban on him by posting from new accounts on !pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net. That's ban evasion, which on most instances leads to an account-level ban, as far as I know. The relevant account is UniversalMonk@lemm.ee.

I'm not sure how to notify admins on lemm.ee, so I'm posting here. If ban evasion justifies an account ban on lemm.ee, then it's time. If there's a better place to send this note, let me know, and I'll do that instead.

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[–] tron@midwest.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I'm not planning to set the bot up to notify dozens of users about their bans in a community they have never posted in and don't care about.

lol so your dumb bot bans randos, doesn't tell them, and you're too lazy to fix it and this guy is somehow avoiding bans he never even knew happened. this is straight ridiculous stop wasting people's times with this crap

[–] auk -5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Sending out ban notifications to dozens of users about bans in a community they've never heard of doesn't seem like good bot design.

I am unsurprised that a UniversalMonk fan would think that would be a totally reasonable thing to do, though, and at the same time that banning someone who managed to get an account ban from the least ban-happy instance there is when they make a new account and start doing the same stuff is somehow unreasonable.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Dude, if your bot is issuing bans, it absolutely, 100% needs to be notifying people it bans.

Fuck universal, that's not the issue. A bot that's automatically banning people is bullshit to begin with, if that's what it does and I'm not entirely sure that's the case but if it's banning, and doesn't include a notification function, that's beyond bad.

[–] poVoq 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

There is no such thing as ban notifications on Lemmy, but the bot's bans are public in the mod log like any other community moderator bans. This seems like a reasonable design as notification spam by a bot is significantly worse than not knowing about being banned from a community you are not using anyways (and if you have been using it, then the ban is easily noticeable and doesn't need a notification either).

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

yeah, lemmy doesn't have ban notifications (afaik anyway).

But there's a bot out there banning people from the outside. If that's going to be a part of lemmy, then it damn well needs a higher standard

[–] UniversalMonk 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Just curious, and not to beat a dead horse, but if Lemmy can give us notifications that comments are removed, why can't it do a simple ban notification as well?

Because I always get notified when a post or comment has been removed.

Seems simple enough make the removal notification that led to banning something as simple as "Your comment has been removed for xxxx reason. And now you are banned from the community due to reasons xxxxx."

I realize that my particular situation here has been resolved and we can move on, but I'm just curious if the lack of banning notifications is a software issue or if it's a philosophical issue for Lemmy and the fediverse.

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