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If you live in a place where food service workers are underpaid and you don't tip, you're an asshole. This is not a morally defensible stance unless there is a system to protect those workers already in place.
You're right. I should just not go there at all, watch the business collapse, and see them beg for jobs at the next shitty restaurant. That's the better option apparently?
yes. you accidentally hit on the decent thing to do. if you can’t afford tipping in the context of a system that forces individuals to rely on it, go buy groceries.
That is the high road tbh... plus you can just go to joints that not require tipping. They are on the rise.
Also, many places just slap 20% now anyway... so we are in some clown reality where it is now a service fee and owner can just take it because they pay minwage lol
Peasants can never win here.
Yes
They're not employed by me. Wages are between them and their boss. Any more from anywhere else should not be treated as anything other than the optionally-given gift it is.
Tipping culture essentially amounts to legalized wage discrimination.
You're correct. Their wage is often ~$3/hr. It's nearly slave labor.
And you think the customer is the asshole because the system works.
Customers who don't tip are. They are punishing a worker for the crimes of a system. The restaurant owner/manager doesn't suffer if you don't tip. Only the workers do. So until a change comes to the system where workers get paid minimum wage, not tipping isn't morally defensible.
You said it yourself, it's the system that needs to change. As long as we keep chasing our tails trying to blame the customer base instead of the real problem, the ones profiting keep laughing.
*edited 1st sentence for better phrasing
Okay? So push for better laws and higher minimum wage on one hand and until those changes are made, then tip with the other. We can do both at the same time. Right?
I would love to agree. Unfortunately this just circles us back to what ObjectivelyIncarnate said above me