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God, I feel for Zelensky... Imagine fighting for your existence against Russia and having to talk to these morons for help.
Remember when we had a whole impeachment hearing against Trump for withholding aid to Ukraine so he could get a political hit piece on Biden? I'm wondering how long it will take before a quid pro quo scenario pops up again. Either in Ukraine or elsewhere. So ya, we're all feeling for Zelensky in the next few years.
There will be no agreements.
trump is going to change US policy to excluding all intelligence and military support and will "leak" all known military intel to putin.
And all those 5* Generals and going to stand by and salute ?
You really don’t understand America .
Someone in another thread said that Trump could fire generals until he gets someone who is willing to use troops domestically.
He honestly wouldn't need to.
In a past life I worked with a LOT of senior military folk for the purpose of grants and funding and the like. And basically anyone (guesstimating) above the rank of a Captain equivalent (outside of SF) is basically a lifer. And they very rapidly learn how political the upper echelons are and that they need to stay as neutral as possible to get further promotions and have good assignments.
I could very much see various Lieutenants and even some Captains complain about leaving the Ukrainians to die. They will then be immediately told by the nearest Major or General that they are a disgrace to the uniform for refusing orders and blah blah blah. And that will propagate down the line so that the NCO who is ACTUALLY valued for their initiative understands that they will be brought up on treason if they violate these orders.
Because those Generals? They build their entire lives around always being able to say "I was just following orders". They KNOW when you get things in writing.
That’s not even worth comment. Was it LemmyUnder11 or something ?
A president can’t a fire a general. He cannot fire a dozen generals an retain control of the military.
The president can't? Let's see of the Supreme Court has anything to say about that. Right now, I'm not confident the word can't is in their dictionary as far as a president is concerned.
Since Trump technically can't commit crimes as a president, nothing is stopping him from killing the generals until they comply.
Theres an unfortunate autocorrect there that confuses my point :
The president CAN fire a general, but he cannot fire 12 generals . That’s the point I want to make.
You're right.
Just like none of us understood when they all sat with their thumbs up their asses waiting to see how January 6 would shake out. But hey, that is fine. It was because they were waiting for orders from the POTUS or the VPOTUS... that the VPOTUS had a lynch mob and compromised secret service agents hunting down.
But hey, I want me some salmon so Support The Troops God Bless America We Are Number One Make America Great Again, right?
Honestly mate I’m I don’t mean to rude, but you haven’t got a clue, have you ?
the Military industrial complex is making bank. The military is fighting Russia on the cheap, without a single soldier lost, and its strangling the Russian economy.
You think anyone is going to interrupt that ? Be allowed to interrupt that ?
Ah. So they are going to fight to save the economy, not the country.
That is at least somewhat believable. Except... it isn't like we are going to pay them less. And that still involves military officers revolting unless we live in a world where you think Lockheed Martin have secret kill switches in... I don't even know what. The cell phone trump uses to talk to putin?