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I should have stayed home with my cats and ordered take-out. The gays are just as transphobic as anyone else. Fuck people. I opened myself up and I'm mad I did.

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[–] 2d4_bears@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a GNC person myself, the worst bigotry I have experienced personally has come from cis gay people. What was said to you was not acceptable. Your identity is not contingent upon the side that you take in an argument. This woman knowingly chose violence, and that stain is on her. It means little, but this internet stranger sees you. We have to care for one another, especially when we disagree.

[–] Evergreen5970@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wonder if it’s a case of people being discriminated against, so instead of standing in solidarity with their fellow victims they’re looking for a taste of power, of being on the other side.

[–] 2d4_bears@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does seem depressingly common for formerly disadvantaged people to abandon empathy once they gain a modicum of power. See: the divide and conquer strategy that has been effectively wielded against the working class for all of history.

[–] Evergreen5970@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

I wonder if this is just a human trait. “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely” is a quote for a reason.

[–] Pandoras_Can_Opener@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I certainly see elements of that in the neurodiverse spaces as well.

[–] Evergreen5970@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is why I have a nasty cycle of

  1. enter neurodivergent space
  2. see ”NT bad”
  3. leave neurodivergent space

Yall, just like we’re not a monolith, NTs aren’t either!? I don’t like identity-based generalizations. I also understand the need for minorities to vent, and sometimes it involves harsh language and generalizations they don’t actually believe. And sometimes it’s hard for me to see the line between “this is a vent and I, and the community at large, don’t actually believe that all NTs are inferior people, I just had a frustrating experience with many and want to vent without being tone policed” and “it’s just venting, back off tone policer, nevermind that I actually do truly believe that the filthy NTs are inferior.”

However, either one will drive me, a minority who the space is intended for, out. Wonder if there will ever be a spot for minorities that is both modded to be free of bigotry, but also doesn’t allow the venting.

EDIT: not criticizing the Beehaw neurodivergence community, haven’t looked there yet

I tend to speak up when I see it and my admonishments are usually upvoted. So there is that. But yes it's exhausting.

[–] gaytswiftfan@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

oh gosh the reddit ADHD community was so bad with this i had to unsubscribe just to get away from the toxicity