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[alt text: a screenshot of a tweet by @delaney_nolan, which says, "Biden/Harris saw this polling and decided to keep unconditionally arming Israel". Below the tweet is a screenshot from an article, which states: "In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they'd be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they'd be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely."]

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[–] ech@lemm.ee 46 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hard to see people as allies who are willing to let the world burn because the only other option wasn't perfect. The campaign fucked up, for sure, but every voter that stayed home shares blame in this.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Same. I can’t see you as allies if you throw trans people, immigrants, disabled people and homeless people under the bus to protest a policy that will be even worse under the opposition.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A lot of people (probably the majority) that stayed home didn't do so because of Gaza. They did so because they are too busy to keep up with the news, and nothing they heard about either candidate was compelling enough to get up off the couch on election night. It was Harris's job to reach and then convince those people.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't say Gaza, and it doesnt matter why they couldn't be bothered. Their share remains the same.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you just have zero empathy for people with busier lives than you? what about people that work a full-time job while caretaking for an ill parent and maybe also raising kids? people that can barely find time to sleep? it was Harris's job to find a way to reach those people, and convince them to make time to vote. she didn't.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

Goal-post yeeting aside (first "off the couch", now "no time to sleep"?), barring actual factual voter suppression, there's little-to-no valid excuse in the US to not vote at all. Only 3 states have zero early-voting or vote-by-mail options (for now). The thing with democracy is that everyone shares responsibility to take part. Shirking that responsibility doesn't absolve anyone of guilt, more so the opposite. Now democracy very well may not be an option again, so no, I'm not going to spend much time empathizing with the people that enabled that.