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Because you now did it to yourself.

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

True, but I love how the first we blame for this outcome are the American people.

I blame Kamala Harris and her botching her campaign. She had amazing momentum at the start, then slowly threw it all away, instead politicking to small businesses and Republicans instead of workers and their own base: Democrats.

[–] VoterFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They voted for a con man, a fascist, a criminal, someone who tried to steal the last election. Kamala could be a bowl of day old warm potato salad and voting for him would still be one of the dumbest things imaginable.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter.

Self-interest matters. What politicians will do for voters matters. That day old potato salad may be better than Trump, but it's not at all inspiring.

If Democrats really took fascism as a threat, they would have activated Tim Walz and his views and pushed as fast and as hard as they could with the time they had to make the most progressive campaign since Obama's.

But they went after the base who would have voted for a fascist anyways.

This is Democrats' own doing. Sorry.

[–] VoterFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

When fully capable adults do stupid things, like voting for an man with as many very serious faults as Trump, I blame them for doing it. That Democrats were ineffective at convincing people (or inspiring them) not to do something stupid doesn't make the thing any less stupid to do. Inspiration is not required to avoid being idiot.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

When fully capable adults do stupid things, like campaigning to a voting base as grotesque as Trump's, I blame them for doing it.

Democrats, or at least those in their establishment bubble either on TV, on podcasts, at the DNC, or on the congressional floor, will believe anything they want to that'll pass on blame and hold to a superiority complex that they're never wrong. Power corrupts and all that.

Inspiration is absolutely required when you outside of the representative Democracy have lost hope in the economy, society, or planet. Apathy is much more destructive than idiocy, even when the latter is in favor of fascism. Apathy is what lets fascism and idiocracy prosper. There needs to be a counterforce should we keep the alternative at bay.

Democrats did not take Trump's potential to do the above seriously enough, either in his rhetoric to espouse fascism or cast mis- and disinformation. And now we have to deal with their failure.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I have to say when I watched the debate whilst Kamala herself impressed me, nothing she said felt very inspirational. I thought it was pretty clear what big picture items the base wanted and all she could come up with was a payment to new families and help for small business. This is good and all, but not the larger national and foreign policy announcements people wanted.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 week ago

You both bear 100% of the blame each.