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[–] ashley@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hold the opinion that free will is not compatible in a universe with physics. Decisions can be random, but I don’t think the concept of “free will”, as every decision comes from the randomness of the universe, and outside factors. Not “consciousness”

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does the fact that point of observation affects the outcome of the experiment fit into this? If there is no consciousness, why does it matter where you observe, as in the case of varying outcomes of the double slit experiment?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The "observer" doesn't have to even be conscious.

I don't believe in determinism or free will, though. The universe is full of random bullshit and nothing matters 👍

[–] ashley@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Consciousness is a side effect of the structures physics has created in our brains. We have consciousness because of the atoms in our brain that interact with each other in different ways.

[–] Derproid@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Aren't most philosophers unanimous on this? That the concept of free will can only exist in a world with beings that can act outside the natural world (i.e. god).

[–] Nemo 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh you really gonna use "most" and "unanimous" side-by-side like that?

[–] Derproid@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Lmao good point. Should have said "most philosophers agree'

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That doesn't sound like someone who believes nothing matters. This would sound more like it:
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[–] Nemo 1 points 1 year ago

This human gets it.