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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because they're different things?

He says people are bigoted if they're against people fucking children. That's him saying having sex with children is a good thing.

Saying prohibition of alcohol is bad is different from saying alcohol is good.

Agreed. However if you said "I think it's unfortunate alcohol is banned. If you are against consuming alcohol then you are a bigot." Then that instead points to you believing alcohol is good.

That's not equating alcohol and pedos

Yes it is.

Its an explanation of why I think he might have had an opinion

No it fucking isn't. Having mild autism is not an explanation for thinking pinning down a four year old and giving them some dick is a good thing.

He believes that because he's a sick fuck who believes in paedophilia. Not because of autism. Autism doesn't make you like that at all.

The defense is that he admitted he was wrong and apologized

Yep, I've already covered this. He did a complete 180 2 days after it became apparent his job was on the line. It wasn't genuine remorse, it was a last-ditch effort to save his own skin.

What? There are plenty of autistic people that have a wide variety of beliefs

Being autistic doesn't cause you to believe raping kids is a good thing. Stop pretending it does. You must really hate autistic people if you're willing to paint them with that brush.

No I didn't, stop lying about me. Analogy is not equating, I have no clue why this has to be explained.

Yes you did.

Having a glass of wine is not like fucking a four year old. Stop.

He did not say its good, and he does now think the same as he said.

Yes he did. And his opinion has not changed.

I am tempted to think you're trolling seeing as you're ignoring what I actually wrote and instead just going for cheap attacks. Please stop engaging in bad faith.

I hope you're trolling, because if not you're a fucking psychopath who denies genocide and thinks keeping a toddler as a sex slave is morally equivelant to having a Heineken, and that both should be equally legal.

Please for the love of god be a troll.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He says people are bigoted if they’re against people fucking children. That’s him saying having sex with children is a good thing.

Here's an analogy there is no way you can lie about(though you'll probably find a way): Saying someone is bigoted if they make fun of arachnophobia is not the same thing as saying arachnophobia is good. And I'm not equating arachnophobia to pedos. Opposing opposition to X is not the same thing as supporting X, its possible to be neutral on X. I'm not neutral on pedos, I think pedos are bad and gross. I think it is wrong to be neutral on pedos, but it is factually inaccurate to say that being "neutral on X" == "X is a good thing".

Agreed. However if you said “I think it’s unfortunate alcohol is banned. If you are against consuming alcohol then you are a bigot.” Then that instead points to you believing alcohol is good.

Thank you!!!! This makes me so happy genuinely!!! You responded to what I actually said!! So you did get it! So why do you keep lying about it?

Anyways, my excitement aside, you're fine to think that. But I do disagree that that's the analogy of what you're saying Stallman said, instead it would be closer to "I think it’s unfortunate alcohol is banned. If you are against letting people consuming alcohol then you are a bigot.”

Which is not necessarily pro-alchohol. Another example, imagine a government that banned a religion, say Buddhism, you could say "I think it’s unfortunate Buddhism is banned. If you are against letting people practice Buddhism then you are a bigot.”- that statement is not necessarily pro-Buddhist, its just anti-prohibition of Buddhism.

Yes it is.

Awww my excitement is gone

No it fucking isn’t. Having mild autism is not an explanation for thinking pinning down a four year old and giving them some dick is a good thing.

It literally is an explanation. You're free to think the explanation is wrong and bad, but its still an explanation.

Not because of autism. Autism doesn’t make you like that at all.

I didn't say it was because of autism. I said its because he failed to empathize with victims, yk a symptom of "autism".

Yep, I’ve already covered this. He did a complete 180 2 days after it became apparent his job was on the line. It wasn’t genuine remorse, it was a last-ditch effort to save his own skin.

He's still fired from MIT so why doesn't he backtrack if he still believes it?

Being autistic doesn’t cause you to believe raping kids is a good thing. Stop pretending it does.

Never said it does, stop lying about me.

Yes you did.

Having a glass of wine is not like fucking a four year old. Stop.

My pain is immeasurable. Please quote where I said those exact words.

Yes he did. And his opinion has not changed.

Why'd he stop saying it then?

I hope you’re trolling, because if not you’re a fucking psychopath who denies genocide and thinks keeping a toddler as a sex slave is morally equivelant to having a Heineken, and that both should be equally legal.

Genuinely why are you still responding if you honestly believe that's what I said? Just to insult me?

Please for the love of god be a troll.

I don't hide behind a pseudonym to be toxic to people on the internet.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why do you keep lying about this? He repeatedly defended raping children.

He thinks raping children should be legal.

He thinks anybody against raping children is bigoted.

He thinks raping children is good.

Stop equating drinking alcohol to raping a child. They aren't comparable.

I'm being toxic? Mate you're being an apologist for genocide and child rape. I'm not the toxic one here.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why do you keep lying about this?

I'm not, you are the one lying about what I said.

He repeatedly defended raping children.

Yep, and that was very bad, and I never denied that. I denied that he said it was good.

He thinks raping children should be legal.

Thought*

He thinks anybody against raping children is bigoted.

Thought*

He thinks raping children is good.

He never said that

Stop equating drinking alcohol to raping a child.

I didn't.

I’m being toxic?

You're intentionally lying about what I said as an excuse to insult me rather than actually respond to what I said.

Mate you’re being an apologist for genocide and child rape

No I'm not

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, he thinks raping children is a good thing.

Saying "thought" implies he no longer does.

No I'm not

Yes you are.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, he thinks raping children is a good thing.

Again, he never said that.

Saying “thought” implies he no longer does.

He claims he no longer does, can you read his mind?

Yes you are.

Quote what exactly I said that was either of those things.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He did say that.

Do you believe he suddenly changed his mind on an opinion he held and shouted to the world, 2 days after it became apparent he might lose his job over it?

If someone committed fraud, then went to court and said "your honour, I actually agree with you. Fraud is wrong. I came to that conclusion this morning." would you believe them?

Quote what exactly I said that was either of those things.

It's what all of your comments have been about. Don't play dumb.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you believe he suddenly changed his mind on an opinion he held and shouted to the world, 2 days after it became apparent he might lose his job over it?

Why didn't he reverse then? He's never seemed shy about sharing his opinions before.

If someone committed fraud, then went to court and said “your honour, I actually agree with you. Fraud is wrong. I came to that conclusion this morning.” would you believe them?

An opinion however gross isn't a crime.

It’s what all of your comments have been about. Don’t play dumb.

I never said it, that's why you can't quote it

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

He did reverse, that's my point.

An opinion however gross isn't a crime.

Never said it was. Now can you answer the question. Would you believe this person was genuine?

You've said it constantly. Child rape isn't ok.