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I had a discussion with @Cowbee@lemmy.ml recently where they insisted that Anarchists on Hexbear accept Lenin's analysis of Imperialism and therefore all support "Actual Existing Socialist" states such as Cuba, USSR and I guess North Korea as well.

In fact, they argued it's the reason most anarchists of Hexbear don't like to discuss anarchism away from hexbear, explicitly because outside anarchists do not support "AES".

So I'm curious to see what your thoughts are on this. If you're an anarchist who supports "AES" how do you square this support with the conflict these states have with anarchist theory on hierarchy?

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[โ€“] poVoq 16 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

That makes about as much sense as "anarcho-capitalism". Of course it's no fun to have your mental gymnastics questioned outside of Hexbear ๐Ÿ˜…

But ok, for the sake of argument, maybe a dysfunctional late-stage AES is a more suitable ground for building something in the shell of the old. At least people in these states know from first hand experience just how bad state control can get.

Edit: curious that you left out China in your list of AES.

[โ€“] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm actually not up to date on what the ML analysis on China is lately. Do they still consider it "AES" or is it seen more capitalist nowadays? I can't always keep up with the mental gymnastics on display :D

[โ€“] Zagorath@aussie.zone 9 points 10 hours ago

Hexbear doesn't care about the answer to that question. They support modern-day Russia which doesn't have any pretense of socialism. Their stance is first and foremost anti-American. Anything else is window dressing.