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Gotta get creative with your layoffs when you already did massive layoffs but still need to please wall street.

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[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This was for sites that didn't have a cafeteria. They offered this as a way to provide food, while on-site, if the employee would like to. This childish notion that "sOmBoDy GoT mOrE tHaN mE!" is ridiculous. This wasn't supposed to be for personal monetary gain. Employees with sites that had cafeteria are not handed cash or allowed to select household goods if they choose not to eat at the cafeteria. This isn't something that should really have to be explained to grown-ass adults making 400k a year. This is just an extreme level of entitlement and I can't believe people are making me defend a company who's products I refuse to use.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I can’t believe people are making me defend a company who’s products I refuse to use.

Exactly!

People abusing a benefit for marginal gain is wrong. It's not "you're fired" wrong, it's "you don't get this benefit anymore" wrong.

We can absolutely call out the empolyees for abusing the benefit while also calling out the company for overreacting, and we should be calling it what it is: Meta looking for ways to cull their workforce w/o having to pay out severance or dealing with wrongful termination.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll give you that, but that other commenter seemed to think it wouldn't be "fair" if another employee used it, and they didn't, which is a very childish notion. Depending on severity and duration, I could even see it being a talking to. I do also see not being able to find this employee suitable for a position of trust, which they may have been in given their salary. If the employer can't trust you to self-regulate on something as simple as a meal voucher, I don't see how they could trust you at large.

very childish

Absolutely! My kids make this argument all the time (they got a half centimeter more juice than me!! waaah!!), and if they complain, I take it away. I was always taught, "you get what you get and you don't get upset," which works fantastically when divvying up things like this. I'm not going to make a stink over a $25 food voucher or whatever, it's just a way to replace not having a benefit available elsewhere (a cafeteria), and if you're whining about someone else using the whole $25 when you don't, then you're a super selfish person who I wouldn't want to work with anyway.

If I was a manager in this situation, I'd deal with it exactly as I do with my kids: I'd take away the voucher. No disciplinary action, just removing the benefit if it's causing problems. I would probably also not want to recommend them for promotion because this type of behavior often indicates other issues, but I wouldn't do that just because of this stupid benefit violation.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is either wrong to use it for something else or it isn't.

Should the employees who spent less than the dollar amount of the voucher on that day's meal be fired too?

??

There's no requirement to use up the whole voucher, the only requirement is that if you choose to use the voucher, you only use it on food. That's it.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, this is the company treating their employees like children over a benefit they chose to provide.

You don't have to defend them, they have lawyers. You are choosing to defend them.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm just explaining how the real world works. For instance, I supervise other employees. Their hourly rate is lower than mine, however, the real cost of many of the employees I supervise far exceeds my real cost. How? Well, some have dependants and they are included on their health insurance. Beyond that, some have chosen different providers or higher option plans than I have. There are other benefits that can increase their real cost to the employer. Does that mean my employer owes me the difference in cash or other tangible rewards based on how I choose to take advantage of the benefits offered? What if I chose not to contribute to my retirement, do they owe me that match percentage, even though that's not his it's outlined? This is absurd. There are problems with capitalism and corporations in this country, but expecting people to follow simple guidelines regarding a meal voucher isn't one of them, especially for well compensated employees. Realistically, meta could probably refer this to the local police as fraud if they chose to.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

That isn't the same thing by a mile.

Travel meal vouchers are common and rarely require receipts because they are provided with the onus on the employees to use them as intended. There is zero liability on Meta for a voucher given as a condition of being in the office, because if it was that important they would have been collecting receiots and reimbursing employees or having them order on a company account or something like that.

This is grade A after the fact petty shit to dismiss employees.