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My father is convinced Elon is an idealist but I'd like to show him he's been misled

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[โ€“] Lauchs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The more useful framing might be someone like Ford.

I'd be hard pressed to argue Musk hasn't had some sort of a hand in a couple significant technological movements (Tesla, SpaceX) but that doesn't make his political positions worthy of respect.

Similarly, for all his flaws, Ford revolutionized the factory. That didn't make his Brazilian city work, his shitty anti semetic views right or his "meh" attitudes on ww2 correct.

Musk's successes don't particularly quality him on everything.

[โ€“] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

In a society that values money above everything else, his status as richest person for lots of people makes his views seem relevant, even if unconsciously so. Then there come the fanboys to idolize him. But let's consider the obsession with wealth that creates this halo effect even in the "non-fan-boys". Musk, Trump, Tate, should all be irrelevant, but they're not, which is in fact a systemic problem.

[โ€“] naeap@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

Meh attitudes to ww2, puts it lightly.

Hitler loved him and afaik Ford was also invited over and got some medal or something

The USA was a fan of Hitler for quite some time. So if course there were people sympathetic with Nazi Germany