You're already doing that with insurance premiums. Universal healthcare is that but cheaper because the government doesn't have a profit incentive to price gouge.

[+] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee -14 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Universal healthcare is that but cheaper because the government doesn't have a profit incentive to price gouge.

Cheaper for everyone except higher income folk. They would benefit from a multi payer, private insurance system as they would end up paying less.

You're already doing that with insurance premiums.

Insurance premiums aren't decided based on my income. They're decided based on the probability of me needing healthcare. Therefore, we kinda are not doing that right now. Universal, single payer healthcare would mean that healthcare expenditure would increase with my income. If I'm rich, I would be very sad.

But I'm not. Also, eat the rich. Healthcare is a human right. I am very happy with the universal healthcare that I have lol. I wouldn't want it to go away at all. But again, I was talking about the technicality here.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Guess who tends to need Healthcare most often, the poor and the elderly, two groups that don't tend to have much income to spend on health premiums.

But don't worry it's not like 'you' will ever be poor or elderly so you shouldn't care about health coverage for those groups.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

But don’t worry it’s not like ‘you’ will ever be poor or elderly so you shouldn’t care about health coverage for those groups.

Spot on. This person isn't playing devils advocate, they're playing self defence of their own cognitive dissonance.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee -2 points 4 weeks ago

Huh??? I never even presented my own ethical position. We were talking about TECHNICALITIES here. Suddenly u'r accusing me of holding a shitty ethical position? Fuck right off.

I rlly try to be as polite as possible online. But jeez r u guys fkin stupid. We're having a logical argument about technicalities for fuck's sake. I said a thousand times that I support single payer universal healthcare. I love it, and I don't want to lose it. I'm just pointing at the economic exchange here and how it is different from a non-universal multi payer healthcare system. That's it. But NOOOOOOO how could I do that??? Ugh

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 10 points 4 weeks ago

Oh boo hoo the poor 0.01 percent erst and their extra thousand dollars going to Healthcare sure is going to ruin them.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Also, eat the rich. Healthcare is a human right.

how do you do fellow leftists

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee -2 points 4 weeks ago

Oh fuck right off. My political positions r my political positions because I've formed synthesis by evaluating both, thesis and antithesis. I consider myself a leftist. This however does not mean that I shouldn't talk about antithesis for leftist theses. We're not in a cult, uk.