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Maybe EVs are not a comprehensive climate solution??

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[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 20 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

This, the researchers note, is because wealthier people in general have a bigger carbon footprint—they use more electricity, which is most often produced at a coal-burning plant,

Blatantly untrue.

Electricity sector in Finland

Even without that obvious lie: Well, rich people driving ICE cars would have an even bigger footprint. What point is this trying to make?

[–] perestroika 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think the study analyzed the footprint of the person, not the vehicle:

In this new study, the research team investigated whether consumers who purchase and drive such vehicles have a smaller carbon footprint than other consumers

The merits of electric vehicles are irrelevant to their study - and their study is irrelevant to the merits of electric vehicles.

So maybe they're not lying (or maybe they are, if they made a direct claim about the power mix of the Finnish grid), but they're definitely far from barking under the correct tree. They're barking in a different forest, not of transport economy, but of wealth and consumption. :)

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Quoting myself from another answer:

This paper takes it's data from a survey in Finland, so I believe it should use the Finnish power mix in it's conclusions or at least compare to it.

And while the study seems to make sense, the article is just awful clickbait.

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