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Study shows EV owners have bigger carbon footprint than average because they are wealthier (phys.org)
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Maybe EVs are not a comprehensive climate solution??

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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Before reading, I'm expecting:

  • focussing only on the production emissions
  • pretending only coal powered electricity exists
  • anecdotal evidence

After reading:

  • ~~focussing only on the production emissions~~
  • pretending only coal powered electricity exists
  • anecdotal evidence
  • misdirection

The argument is "rich people consume more". Which is true, and their emissions are higher because of it. Driving electric is still better than gas though.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Electric cars are better than gas, but the extensive car infrastructure needed to sustain cars remains the same. The real solution is having viable alternatives to driving to reduce the need for car use altogether.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

It's not an instant solution, obviously. I have been cooking and heating electric at home for years. For most of the first year, that was coal powered electricity.

A friend of mine made that same argument as you. "But our power is coal, you're just throwing away money". Well, a year later, we have green power and gas is hella expensive.

Now he's complaining about gas prices.

Don't be him, think more than one step ahead.