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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All this shit needs to be legislated to be opt-in.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And then they'll just do like everyone else does, nag screens every five minutes with no "No, and don't ask me again" option, you can only say "Not now" and then it'll ask again in five minutes. Or you can have the car, but you can only use the speedometer if you agree to them monitoring your speed and you can only have headlights and windshield wipers if you agree to them recording everything you do, etc.

[–] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Sounds like a vehicle I wouldn't buy. That's the ultimate control - the consumer demands privacy and buys the vehicle that provides it

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

good luck not owning a vehicle after literally all of them become enshittified garbage.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah... Doesn't really work like that in reality. Look at TVs.

[–] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mine isn't hooked to the Internet. Works for me.

[–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is the way. I just moved and got a new TV. It has never been connected to the internet and never will. My Shield TV pro handles that

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No car for you then, since all of them do it. Can't go to work? Too bad.

Just remember, voting with your wallet works. /s

[–] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wirecutters do wonders for privacy.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As long as it's not literally digitally run on one wire, and if you cut it, you have no infotainment system. Or, in some cases, no way to start your car.

Or it's not a rental. Or your friend's car. Or a taxi.

This needs to be regulated away.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly. We're just describing various failures to effectively govern.

[–] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I snipped the antenna lead from the cellular modem on my Hyundai. No more built-in road assistance, remote start, or emergency unlocking, but I then never signed up to pay for those features. The car can't phone home anymore. I connect my phone to the infotainment system to allow navigation, and the phone has an Internet DNS filter that prevents connections to Hyundai's servers.

That will have to suffice until we get full digital privacy rights.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That needs to be shut down, too.

Like those stupid cookie notices. If sites would just stop doing tracking, the notices aren’t even needed.

[–] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yep, as a web developer sometimes I get panicky about new legislation until I remember that I don’t even serve CSS or JavaScript from third-party domains. I don’t track users by IP address or anything. Fuck that

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And I’m sure your websites are (even more) awesome without that garbage.

[–] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I really try, but I’m starting to feel like a zombie all the time!

One thing I try to do is not go so hard on JavaScript. I don’t like when websites do that and have problems due to that, especially when it comes to forms (though I do have an awesome example with being able to paste a long string of text into a text field and having JavaScript split it into the following fields, but only if it’s in the correct format).

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

JavaScript is fine as long as it degrades gracefully when disabled by the user.

That feature sounds very useful.

[–] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, it’s a long story but while working somewhere they used a terrible SaaS for their day-to-day operations and I eventually built my own that they still use (I don’t work there anymore).

The long string would be a bunch of specifications sent via email by clients (it’s an email-heavy industry) and I got tired of copying and pasting each part line by line (it was also hard because they weren’t sent as separate lines, but used a character as a separator) so I built it for myself.

I guess that’s the magic of eating your dog food.