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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 87 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I've heard some stories about schools with zero tolerance. Bullying victims soon found out that you get equal punishment for defending themselves or for some serious violence. The logical response is to go full berserker mode.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 82 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

"So, Kid A jumped Kid B in the hallway, called them a bigoted slur, then beat Kid B so badly he had to go to the hospital. Kid B tried to fight back, but was overwhelmed. Our solution is that kids are going to be suspended for an equal amount of time and suffer equal repercussions, because zero tolerance."

Zero tolerance is the absence of humanity as a policy. It's abhorrent.

[–] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Totally.

My mom would always ask, "Why didn't you walk away?" And I would respond "I get suspended either way, at least this way everyone knows not to fuck with me."

I am so glad I haven't had to hit someone in a long time.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That, and have you ever tried to "walk away" when there are like five people chasing you with the intent of beating you up? Good luck with that.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

JFK should have just walked away from Lee Harvey Oswald instead of encouraging him

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Oswald was only doing it to get a rise out of him. Kennedy should have been the bigger man. Really, he's just as culpable for giving Oswald the reaction he wanted.

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Or my favorite, "just walk away" when dickhead would sneak up behind me and put me in a headlock...

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

Or my favorite "Well did you tell them to stop treating you that way?"

Woah, Master Oogway, that's some deep enlightenment right there. :O

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Zero tolerance is how you market abdication of responsibility to dipshit parents. "We have a zero tolerance policy" means "We do not value your children, especially the boys. We're itching for a reason to throw them in the trash."

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

It's more about self preservation. While I won't claim they give a shit about the children. This is ALL about them covering their own asses. By going "zero tolerance" it takes all judgement and decisions out of the system. The administrators are safe from any backlash or lawsuits.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Zero tolerance" is just a code word for "zero brain cells."

And it's not just stupid on the part of school administrators, it's actively cowardly. Just insist that right and wrong don't matter and no one can hold you accountable for anything.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is being suspended even a punishment? I would have been psyched to be suspended, I hated going to school.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Depends on your home situation. My mom made being suspended so much worse than being at school, and I hated school.

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I used to cut class, then get suspended as "punishment". I called it two for the price of one...

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Got really harshly dogged in sophomore year by an asshole, one day in gym class he threw a basketball (iirc?)directly at my head. That day I gave him a death stare and we squared up, gym teacher came over and threw US both on the ground yelling like you do when dogs start fighting. A year later I was questioned by the school councilor whether I was safe enough to go to my honors classes at a neighboring high school (zero tolerance for bad behavior in this program). I nearly got denied my favorite class (equine science+veterinary science) over that shit. Don’t even remember the guy’s name, but he was a total loser. I’m still salty that I didn’t beat the shit out of him that day lol.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Zero tolerance needs to be applied to administration too, so that they can see how absolutely unjust the policy is against victims of abuse. Spray brake fluid on the superintendent's car and then accuse them of vandalism. Same thing. Set fire to their lawn, blame them for arson. Same thing. Maybe being part of the injustice will highlight their idiotic reasoning.

Such a dumb fucking policy made by lawyers who don't react like normal people.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

The Ender Wiggin solution. Take that as you will.