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[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Misogynists and fascists like disgusting Elon aside, I do believe there is a serious problem on the horizon.

Just existing AI capabilities, "cyberdildonics" and virtual reality headsets. It doesn't have to be a full sized sex robot, simple hardware like the handy already exists.

Imagine combining that with a ChatGPT and video generating AI that is designed to create "engagement" similar to how social media does this - not just with sexual pleasure but also through generated stories creating a pseudo intimacy based on illusion.

It sounds pathetic but algorithms could relatively quickly generate the "ideal" forms of pornography and stimulation to maximize pleasure, including "aural" stimulation and sex stories. And that generated for the tastes and desires of each individual.

So there is at least the possibility of a kind of addiction or at least habit forming from a kind of "ultra porn". Long term this will lead to changes in dating and procreation and socialization, if sexual desires are being able to be fulfilled illusionary and in a fantasy world.

No matter how pathetic you think this is, it's going to be a real problem or at least disruption. Obviously it won't be a feminist "self own".

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

sexual desires are being able to be fulfilled illusionary and in a fantasy world.

Aren't we pretty much there already? Dating and being together is about so much more than sex, the loneliness epidemic has other causes.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of it has to do with options. Not good or bad, but options.

You go into a store and want to buy milk, and instead of there being the local milk selections there is now 50,000 different choices. So we always seem to hold out for that more ideal option and never really select one.

This might be where modern dating is going. Fight Club talked about the single serving friend. Tinder style dating has turned us into single serving partner.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Window shopping on a hookup site is one thing, it seems a bit like some people have just not gotten the memo that that's not what a long-term relationship looks like. Superficial stuff is nice but I'd rather find someone I really, really like. Can't really window shop for that though and it might take a long, long time to actually find out if the feelings match reality.

Apparently a large amount of people are essentially casting someone for the role of partner though. Never really taking down their personality defenses, never just being themselves. Because that's being vulnerable. 1800s style. I'd rather stay single.

[–] in4aPenny@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

You're kinda describing a "doll house" from Cyberpunk 2077, except it's ai controlled humans that get their memories wiped performing the service instead of a vr headset

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh, I think it will broadly be a good thing. Perhaps there will be addiction problems, but you can already basically see any kind of porn you want with minimal effort... This refinement will only have drastic effects on the most niche fetishists.

Plus, anyone who has tried prompting an image generator to do something that isn't a digital art image of a sexy elf in the forest knows it's a real pain to actually get models to do exactly what you want. As they get more sophisticated I don't see this changing. Porn video generation will be fraught with frustration and difficulty... Most likely generating good porn will be a whole job of its own.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well we're both speculating, but I believe AI will advance to the point it can reliably animate a 3D animated "girlfriend" in a virtual environment and then learn how exactly how to maximize pleasure and create erotic stories. With more advance teledildonics being able to simulate different types of sex it could become better at that then the best "courtesan". Fantasy is often better than sex already, but what happens when you have visual, physical and erotic narrative woven together?

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well it certainly sounds like it will make for a great wank experience but it's not going to replace my relationship any time soon lol

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Your relationship won’t be the issue. It will be the millions of high school boys who grow up with this experience rather than attempt dating. And why would they date? That person has problems, isn’t “on” 100% of the time. For a young man they can get everything they think they need from an AI wankfest.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

A man can only come that many times a day, but can already doom scroll all day...