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Edit: NOTE, I am the receiver of the texts.

So many people asking me to have my wife do something different on her end.

Beloved, she is on iPhone because she doesn't want to do anything "weird." She is texting from her phone number using her texting app. That's what's going to happen.

Now, why can't I get iMessage on my android phone? If it's just a messenger app why not make it available for Android?

I'd use it.

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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 118 points 1 month ago (1 children)

SMS/MMS has really low file size limits, and iPhones may downscale a little more aggressively than required.

Just pick an internet based messaging service. I like Signal, but they all work.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The next version of iOS should add support for RCS which should allow for cross platform larger images as well.

[–] JoeyHarrington@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To be far, apple has had iMessage since 2011 and no one cared about RCS until it was adopted on Android in 2019.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be additionally fair, Android still has phones out there in use that still dont have the RCS feature, and never will because those phones are no longer supported.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

With a 5 year support cycle on iOS devices getting OS updates, ALL of the iPhones going back to 2019 (when it was added to android) will likely support RCS

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 2 points 1 month ago

i have an iphone xs (2018) that’s getting rcs, even

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because imessage is proprietary and apple is against it being publicly available and a standard.

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

(So are Google’s extensions to RCS)

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes but it wasn't marketed that way. Which is why there is more interest.

Apple has been blatantly obvious that they want it to remain proprietary and exclusively on their hardware.

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is true, Google has cared less about the hardware and more about being the platform to run all of it. Not all that different than Android in that regard.

I’m still not sure why people are so quick to jump on board though. You can degoogle Android, it’s much harder to degoogle RCS.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Yup, xmpp is the way to be still IMO.

[–] Track_Shovel 5 points 1 month ago

Fucking honestly - it's the theme for their whole product line

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

RCS from what I can tell still has some significant limitations, like the version common on Android having some Google proprietary extensions it's not clear if other vendors will fully support. I'd still recommend something like Signal to most people, though RCS improves the experience for those not using that.

[–] xlash123@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's all a huge mess... Apple is complying with the RCS spec, but isn't using Google's proprietary encryption method because it's proprietary. Google also won't open the API on Android to allow for 3rd party RCS apps. So until Google decides to abandon their stronghold over the encryption standard and API access, RCS will continue to suck from a privacy standpoint.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I haven't been following the RCS story closely. My impression is it's a standard core on which each provider can tack on nonstandard extensions, and somehow carriers are involved even though it's internet-based. It sounds like people who won't adopt third-party internet messaging apps are going to continue to have a bad time.

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you mean should add RCS as in they're expected to, or should add RCS as in "that would be wise"?

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

It is expected, it is already in the betas but may also require carriers to enable it as some beta testers found it wasn’t available to them initially.